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Geoff Schwartz Injury Highlights Continued Concerns with New York Giants Offensive Line

August 24th, 2014 at 11:00 AM
By Daniel Graham

Most New York Giants fans can attest that their main concern over the last few years is the team’s offensive line. Over the last several offseasons, the team has time and time again overlooked the offensive line in favor of another position. It wasn’t until the 2013 offseason did the Giants begin to take serious action with this concern. They drafted Justin Pugh with their No. 1 pick, receiving praise from fans and critics alike; with Pugh starting all 16 games last year it was an indication that this tackle from Syracuse could be a durable force in the future.

The team also picked up center Eric Herman from Ohio in the seventh round. The Giants again turned to some offensive lineman help in free agency this offseason too with the signing of Kansas City Chiefs guard Geoff Schwartz and Denver Broncos center J.D. Walton. And in the draft they selected Weston Richburg from Colorado State in the second round.

Despite these moves, many Giants fans hold their breath as they awaited the diagnosis on Geoff Schwartz’s foot injury from Friday’s game against the New York Jets. The initial diagnosis: dislocated toe and an absence from the Giants roster for at least the first month of the season.

There is no doubt that this has disappointed many fans. However, the Giants can take a closer look at their talent pool and see who has made the grade this preseason and is capable of stepping up in that vacant offensive line spot.

One honorable mention this preseason is guard Brandon Mosley, the Giants’ third-year lineman taken in the fourth round of the 2012 draft. He has shown flashes of brilliance this preseason and has even started some preseason games at right guard with Schwartz on the left. Needless to say, the line has been shaky with giving quarterback Eli Manning time to throw and one too many times this preseason have we seen Eli running for his life. Mosley can’t be excused from the blame for that, but his blocking on running plays has gotten better.

It’s hard to judge which five will be faced with the daunting task of going up against Ndamukong Suh and the Detroit Lions defense on opening night until the Giants make their first batch of cuts, which will be coming early next week. We can point fingers all day and blame individual lineman for not performing well, but we have to remember that at the offensive lineman position, it is the least solitary out of all other positions. A lineman must work with their five man crew in order to get their plays down pat. Ergo, an individual effort is just as good as a team effort when it comes to the O-line.

Manning, Ryan Nassib and Curtis Painter have been getting hit from all over so far in these games, but that’s the growing pain the Giants’ offense must work on as a result of having a team chock full offensive linemen wearing a blue uniform for only a few years. And with a new offensive system, it makes the situation a bit more concerning all around.

But we must remember, like it or not these men are professionals. If they decide not to put in a team effort to get better, then this is not the right profession for them. And the one strength the Giants do have is knowing who are the professionals and who are not. That will indeed show on cut day later on next week.

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8 Responses to “Geoff Schwartz Injury Highlights Continued Concerns with New York Giants Offensive Line”

  1.  turkish says:

    -This line looked awful with a healthy Schwartz. Still hate the Beckham Jr. pick with OL being such a mess. Now Reese and co. will be forced to overpay for a player like Boone. He will probably cost a 2nd or 3rd to get, with a contract extension. Apparently Boone can play at T too, another need. This offense is going to be very bad fellas.

    •  fanfor55years says:

      Have to disagree. The line looked much better on Friday. And I have already argued why they should not go after Boone. I’ll re-post below.

  2.  fanfor55years says:

    fanfor55years says:
    August 24, 2014 at 10:24 AM
    I wouldn’t even think about trading for Boone while giving him the contract he’s seeking.

    Why?

    Because the Giants are almost certainly a quality left tackle, tight end, pass rusher, and possibly wide receiver away from a championship team (to say nothing of the months still required to get truly familiar with this offensive system), and the addition of Boone isn’t going to change that. Sure, it’s possible that Beatty suddenly starts looking like a quality LT, that Robinson suddenly shows that he was worth the hype, that JPP suddenly finds his game again, and that ODB gets fully healthy and excels by the time they’re a few weeks into the season, but the odds against more than one or two of those things happening are long.

    So I think the approach has to be that you use the draft to keep strengthening the offensive line (at a much cheaper price), especially at guard, a position at which you can find plenty of quality after the first two rounds, while waiting for Schwartz to come back from this injury. I would think this off-season will include the signing of an offensive lineman who will be relatively inexpensive and thought of as decent depth, the drafting of a left tackle, and the drafting of a guard/tackle plus a pretty intensive search for UDFAs who can grow into quality players on the offensive line. I do not see it making any sense to give up a reasonably high draft pick and then paying Boone something on the order of $8-9MM against the cap. In Schwartz, Richburg and Mosley they have a core of guards who can be supplemented by a 4th-6th round draft pick and a veteran free agent (perhaps someone still under 28 who has been unable to make it as a tackle but might be a good guard but was on a team with a lot of depth at guard and therefore not worth that team’s effort to convert him).

    So, no, I’ll take a pass. I think Garofalo is dead wrong on this one.

    •  fanfor55years says:

      fanfor55years says:
      August 24, 2014 at 10:54 AM
      Btw, it ought to be noted that the Giants have two youngsters on the roster who are “developmental” projects but either of whom might turn out to be a quality player (remember, Boone, so highly touted now, was not drafted). This kid Sullen was a pretty good player on a national championship team at Auburn and is a BIG man. And they also have this youngster with a double name, Webb or something, whom I’ve heard Flaherty likes because he’s a smart kid who can move and pull. So the cupboard isn’t bare. One more reason to shy away from Alex Boone.

      Frankly, if they’re going to go out and spend money on a veteran, I’d rather they save the dollars now and go after the best left tackle available on the free agent market after this season. Save the $8MM now and add some millions later to solve the biggest problem on the offensive line for 2015, which is that they still don’t have a really good left tackle.

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      fanfor55years says:
      August 24, 2014 at 10:57 AM
      Forgot to add that Eric Herman is still hanging around too.

  3.  skinnydoogan says:

    I always like Herrmann, he has potential. Brewer has potential as well, to bag groceries at Shop Rite.

  4.  Since 1963 says:

    Been wondering whether the third-round pick of Bromley was a mistake. At the time, I wanted a TE (I think a few decent ones were still available), and I haven’t changed my opinion. Yes, Bromley seems to be a good player (but that’s mostly from bare-bones practice reports), and he’s a great story, fine young man, someone to root for. But as of now, none of the TEs has shown anything. BTW, did Jerome Cunningham see any daylight Friday night? He was supposed to be lighting it up in practice.

  5.  rlhjr says:

    I know it’s milk that has already been spilled. However, the so called concern of Giants fans (knowledgeable fans) has been the offensive line. And this did not start yesterday.

    When I see Richburg play, it steams me to no end because I know that quality offensive linemen have in the past been overlooked by Reese and Co. in order to grab for what have quite frankly worked out to be failures.

    I understand that first round picks were utilized for the most part very well.
    What works me up is the fact that they went the cheap route when they knew it was time to pick up some protection of their QB and insurance for running game.
    I’m done with the topic. But the front office/draft central/brain trust whatever you want to call then, screwed the pooch. The presents of Richburg only accentuates that fact.

    I would be done venting if not for the tight end situation. When Reese selected Robinson, I knew nothing about the kid. I was not down on Robinson because he got injured both times. I just wanted to see him get a shot at playing.
    I’ll say this and again, I’m done on the subject. Robinson was ideally going to be big and athletic and able to run, block and catch. He’s turned out the be lazy, slow, clumsy and unskilled. And to think that Bennett was allowed to walk out of here is again galling.

    None of what I wrote above is beneficial to the Giants current situation.
    And hind sight is almost always 20/20, when it’s not totally wrong.
    Overall, this GM has been just a little too smart for the teams good.
    I will point out that an analysis of his picks indicates that he selects two (2) solid players per draft. That’s not very bad. Each of the last two years he’s had four players who look as though they will work out. It seem as though AFTER Mr. Mura spoke and indicated better offensive linemen were required, Reese has responded. Well you don’t keep your gig by ignoring the bosses direct requests.

    But the lesson that I hope he’s learned is to not scrimp on quality protection for you QB, and just because unknown’s worked out “pretty” well is no excuse for ignoring quality players when they are right in front of your face. No one is infallible and there is a good chance that what I interpret as personnel mistakes are most likely sound decisions made by quality people.

    But damn it, unknowns more often than not are that way for a reason. It’s fine to collect good players form small schools. Because there are plenty of All Pro/HOF’ers who came from those circumstances. But when it comes to protecting your franchise QB, and establishing what has become your calling card of physical play, you simply don’t cut corners with OL. Not to the degree this organization has for several years. FLAME OFF

  6.  ERICHONIUS says:

    @ FF55
    From my observations Schwartz was much better than the Colts game. He
    Was a complete disaster in that game. He struggled nearly every play. This game he only had a few poor plays.

    Drive 1
    Play 3 – run play. He pulls helps the TE (Davis?), fail to seal defender out of the play. Result 6 yard run. Could have been more with better block
    Play 4 – falls down, defender jumps over him, pressure causes under-throw to randle deep middle should have been TD
    (I saw him lose his footing multiple times in the colts game also)

    Drive 4
    Play 1 – Screen Right Schwartz and Mosley are out ahead blocking, while Schwartz is looking into backfield, Babin runs behind him and makes tackle.
    Result 7-yards. If Schwartz makes the block, Jennings is still running.

    Drive 5
    Play 1 – Schwartz receives help on inside from Walton, allows defender to beat him to outside. Schwartz is injured on play.

    Drive 2
    Play 8 (Eli fumble 1) – Beatty gets beat on inside move seems as if he was expecting help from Schwartz. Schwartz instead assists Walton on double team.
    Here is a play that I am not sure if there was a blown responsibility by Schwartz. Looks like bad communication.

    Over all not that bad by Schwartz.

    Bad play counter:
    Pugh-2
    Mosley-6
    Walton-4
    Schwartz-4
    Beatty-3
    Note NFL network replay skiped NYG drive 3 and majority of drive 4. So I have no notes.

    Mosley had the most bad plays but he also had the most good plays. He was by far the best run blocker.

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