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2014 New York Giants Training Camp: Day 7 Recap

July 28th, 2014 at 3:00 PM
By Dan Benton

The New York Giants returned to the practice field in full pads for the second consecutive day on Monday and wasted little time in getting right to work. With an actual game only a few short days away, Big Blue looked to refine some things on offense and ready their players for what was to come. And while little to no game planning will go into Sunday's Pro Football Hall of Fame Game, head coach Tom Coughlin & Co. certainly want the players prepared for live action.

Unfortunately, for wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. (hamstring) and tight end Xavier Grimble (hamstring), their chances at being active on Sunday are slowly circling the drain. Both missed practice again on Monday, joining linebacker Jon Beason (foot), who is still several weeks away from returning. The good news was that wide receiver/return specialist, Trindon Holliday (knee/leg), did return to the field on at least a limited basis.

Practice Notes:

  • On the very first play of practice, Eli Manning looked for Rueben Randle deep down the field, but the pass was picked off by Zack Bowman. Manning then promptly bounced back, hitting Daniel Fells for a touchdown between three defenders.
  • Giants continued practicing endzone fade routes to shorter receivers (Jerrel Jernigan again — not Randle).
  • Devon Kennard continued his string of big hits, crushing Rashad Jennings this time. He also had a solid pancake block in Special Teams drills.
  • Brandon McManus missed his first field goal of camp, but finished 4/5. His totals now stand at 14/15 in camp.
  • David Wilson was returning kickoffs again on Monday, joining Jerrel Jernigan, Quintin Demps and others.
  • The first real fight of training camp was between Henry Hynoski and Johnathan Hankins. Helmets went flying. No one hurt.
  • Jason Pierre-Paul looks healthy and quicker than a season ago, but still isn't dominating like the Giants need him to. Still some rust.
  • For the first time I've seen in camp, the Giants went to a NASCAR-like format along the defensive line: JPP, Damontre Moore, Mathias Kiwanuka, Robert Ayers.
  • Larry Donnell made the catch of the day toward the end of practice. You can see it here.
  • Practice was called after only 65 minutes. The team then went into their post-practice soft-tissue stretches.

Unfortunately, there was little to observe as the Giants essentially cut practice in half. Ryan Nassib looked a little better, Curtis Painter took more reps than his training camp average and the offense, overall, looked like it was struggling.

The Giants will return to practice at 1:20 PM EST tomorrow before their scheduled off day on Wednesday.

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28 Responses to “2014 New York Giants Training Camp: Day 7 Recap”

  1.  BigBlueGiant says:

    “Jason Pierre-Paul looks healthy and quicker than a season ago, but still isn’t dominating like the Giants need him to. Still some rust.”

    Yeah, I’m afraid I think this is just gonna be how it is for JPP from here on out. He’ll be a GOOD De, but not great.

    •  GOAT56 says:

      It’s over, no way JPP could get any better after a week of practice.

    •  skinnydoogan says:

      Hard to believe that he got bad that fast. He has to be holding back.

      •  kujo says:

        Back injuries are fast-acting in their ability to be a real detriment to a player’s production. Especially linemen!

        •  BigBlueGiant says:

          ^^^THIS^^^^

          GOAT, wanna make a bet? O/U on JPP’s total sacks in 2014?

          I say it’s under 10.5.

  2.  GOAT56 says:

    Beckum wasn’t Cooley. Cooley was 250 and was a good enough blocker to be used at some FB in the later part of his career. A 235 TE greatly limits your offense unless you’re a dynamic receiving option.

    •  skinnydoogan says:

      I never said he was Cooley, just said he was a similar type player, other than the fact that he could actually play.

  3.  fanfor55years says:

    I really don’t even know how to react to this stuff about the tight ends. Are we in Bizarro World?

    Okay, I’m going to guess that Tom Coughlin is waiting to see if these tight ends can actually play and that until then he’s reserving the right to tell McAdoo that he’s going to run the ball and go with play-action and a much better mix of shorter passes and a much faster-paced offense but “keep a damn fullback” and stop figuring that some JAG is going to be an important element in this offense.

    Either that or the Giants have decided that they’re going to have such a great defense that they can afford to score about 13 points per game and win, and they see no need to run up the score.

    Having said that, let’s wait and see. I remember when plenty of people thought Eli was a bust and Accorsi’s trade was a disaster; when signing Rolle was thought to be crazy; and when some moron kept insisting that Gerris Wilkinson should be given a chance to play. Let’s not write off all of these tight ends without any evidence. The Giants 101 echo can get pretty loud even when the words bouncing off the canyon walls are dead wrong.

    •  kujo says:

      Come on–there’s no way you’re going to the emerging consensus to veritable JAGs like Donnell and Robinson to the scattered kvetching about Eli or Rolle…

      •  fanfor55years says:

        But what is that consensus based upon? Not much. None of us have seen these guys get many snaps. So my point is that everyone could prove dead wrong. Not saying that consensus is wrong but I do think it’s based on very little real evidence, ergo it’s useless. Gotta see them play before concluding anything that is credible.

        •  kujo says:

          The consensus is based upon the fact that these guys either haven’t gotten many snaps to begin with (Robinson, Donnell), or have gotten enough snaps to be considered a JAG (Davis, Fells). Of course it’s possible that things can change, but it’s possible that I could also buy a Porsche tomorrow to drive around West Palm in while Alison Brie gives me a blower in a Batgirl costume. But it’s far more likely that I’ll drive my Civic to work and return to my very pregnant wife for Taco Tuesday.

  4.  fanfor55years says:

    JPP is going to be a question mark right up to the starting line. There’s no reason for him to really extend himself during the preseason. He knows enough to conserve his physicality.

    What worries me, though, is his continued insistence that he doesn’t need to have worked on technique because he feels he can simply physically beat anyone opposite him. The ONLY guy who ever played his position who COULD do that was Reggie White, but Reggie worked on technique every year. Michael Strahan was all about technique and outsmarting his opponent (in addition to his strength and athleticism). JPP needs to grow up. But I’m not about to start getting seriously concerned because he isn’t dominating the first week of camp. Neither is Eli. They both know it doesn’t matter now, regardless of what the coaches and fans want.

    We’ve been waiting a long time to see what this team looks like. Lots of new faces, coaches and players. It will take some time to jell and a number of the veterans will ease themselves into the season and not look great when it doesn’t count. Everyone should relax a bit, sit back, and see how things go over the next few months. By Week 4 we’ll know much more about this team than anyone knows now.

    •  kujo says:

      This has LONG since been my biggest pet peeve with JPP. I don’t think he’s lazy, but I don’t see him as someone who is capable or willing to invest the gray matter necessary to truly be GREAT. Sure, his physical abilities could allow him to be good–…when he’s healthy– but being a long-lasting commodity in this league takes studying and craftsmanship.

      You said it best–JPP needs to grow up.

  5.  kujo says:

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    So, if you want to be the victim of Mama Raia Cooks ‘n Cleans (Team Avatar Found Here: http://i.imgur.com/bLqRpe1.jpg), let us know!

  6.  Kettles78 says:

    Not that its a big discussion but if McManus is 14-15 do we know what Josh Brown has done in comparison? Just curious

    •  kujo says:

      Good call.

    •  fanfor55years says:

      Just remember, our special teams will be much better this year because of the quality of personnel and competition. Much bigger factor than most realize.

      •  Kettles78 says:

        Exactly why I want to see what Brown is doing. I was corrected right when the season ended I believe about how I thought Brown missed more kicks then he did and it turned out he only missed 2 all year I think it was.

  7.  kujo says:

    T2 to Seattle. Good for him. Hope he finishes his career strong out there.

  8.  kujo says:

    I don’t see anything wrong with the coaches setting a high watermark for Eli as it pertains to Eli’s completion percentage. If you set your goals too low, you rob yourself of the experience of working hard and honing your skills to achieve them.

    That being said, the day Eli Manning completes 70% of his passes is the day I get a Brazilian wax. I’m talking beans, franks and backside. That’s how sure I am that he is NOT going to cross that threshold.

  9.  Dirt says:

    Re: the tight ends

    Of course Kevin Gilbride is going to say the TEs are a big part of the offense. For one, he’s the position coach; what else is he going to say? And two, he’s a Gilbride, so it’s in his DNA to tell everyone how important he is.

  10.  kujo says:

    EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. — It’s easy to say, after the worst season of his career, that New York Giants Eli Manning could stand to be “fixed,” and that new offensive coordinator Ben McAdoo and quarterbacks coach Danny Langsdorf are charged with that assignment. The Giants would dispute that, saying that the new offense and the coaches that come with it are here to “energize” Manning and tap into his natural excitement about learning new things.

    All of that said, some things about the way Manning has played his entire career will have to change in this new offense, and the most significant may be his footwork.

    “I think it’s more kind of the footwork based on the route, and whether you’re under center or in shotgun, just how it changes,” Manning said. “There’s more shotgun footwork and mechanics and kind of listening to your feet. You’re going to take this type of drop out of the gun, and if it’s not open on that first step you’ve got to listen to your feet, get through your progression so when you have to scramble you’re in a good position.

    “Some of those things are taught differently than what we’ve done in the past. I like it. I think it makes sense. You can rely on it, but it’s not only remembering the play and the protection but also remembering, ‘Do I take a step with my right foot first or my left foot?’ Those things have to become second-nature.”

    Learning all of the details and minutiae of what the new offense asks him to do has been Manning’s focus since his ankle healed from surgery and he was able to get on the field and practice in May. McAdoo’s offense will demand that Manning get to the line of scrimmage more quickly, get the play off more quickly and work to dictate tempo to the defense. Part of the way that happens is that the footwork on the drops are in perfect sync with the routes and the play that’s been called.

    “We want our footwork to match what’s going on downfield,” Langsdorf said. “If our footwork is correct, it’s telling you, ‘Okay, it’s time to throw the ball.’ We want to trust our feet and know that it’s time to either get rid of it or get out of there. We don’t want him standing back there holding the ball, taking sacks. We want him to take his drop and make sure his feet are telling him it’s time to do something.”

    The idea of asking a two-time Super Bowl MVP quarterback to change something as fundamental as his footwork in his 11th season in the league sounds daunting. But after a 27-interception, 18-touchdown season, Manning is open to change. And Langsdorf doesn’t think it’s all that cataclysmic anyway.

    “Part of it is having an understanding and being comfortable with where to go with the ball,” Langsdorf said. “He’s got a receiver in progression when we’re going to the first read, and in progression to the second, to the third, and his feet are telling him which time to move on. So there’s some transition from what he’s done in the past, but everybody has some sense of timing in their offense. It’s just a matter of matching it philosophy-wise with what we’re doing.”

    The timing is still a ways from being perfect, and a lot of that has to do with practice time. The Giants remain six days away from their first preseason game and six weeks away from their first real game. So there’s time to get it all figured out. But get the footwork figured out and they will, because it’s fundamental to the West Coast-style offense they’re now committed to running.

    “The very basis of this scheme is having your feet in position to make a play at the right time,” Giants coach Tom Coughlin said. “It’s something this offense has relied upon since Bill Walsh.”

    New for Manning and the Giants, but Manning’s hardly the first to have to learn it. The Giants have every expectation that he will, and that the results will show up in his play.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-giants/post/_/id/37419/for-manning-now-its-all-about-the-feet

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