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New York Giants Hope to Avoid Placing Jason Pierre-Paul on Season-Ending Injured Reserve

December 3rd, 2013 at 7:00 AM
By Doug Rush

'Jason Pierre-Paul' photo (c) 2012, Mike Morbeck - license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/ It hasn't been the season that many were hoping Jason Pierre-Paul would have for the New York Giants in 2013, but considering he was coming off of back surgery to repair a herniated disc and cost him the entire preseason and summer, it was a bit of a crapshoot with the star defensive end.

During several games in the 2013 season, the player that was once regarded as the "unblockable player" in the NFL was not only getting blocked, but dominated by opposing offensive lineman in one-on-one action on the line, whereas in years past, teams had to double and triple-team JPP's side of the field, and even that wouldn't stop him at times.

While JPP's back was starting to feel better, he has had to deal with another injury this season; a shoulder injury that he suffered four weeks ago against the Oakland Raiders and one that hasn't gone away. JPP dealt with it in a victory against the Green Bay Packers and even got a pick-six touchdown return in that game and played through the pain against the Dallas Cowboys, but in that game, he was practically made nonexistent.

The shoulder injury got to the point where it kept him out of the team's 24-17 win over the Washington Redskins, although despite his absence, the defense was able to generate five sacks; four of which were from Justin Tuck, and his status for this coming Sunday's game against the San Diego Chargers is in doubt.

On Monday, Tom Coughlin tried downplaying the notion of simply shutting down JPP for the final four games of the 2013 season and going with Damontre Moore and Mathias Kiwanuka at defensive end on the other side along with rotating Tuck between defensive end and defensive tackle; something he did and was successful with against the Redskins.

“I don’t think so,” Coughlin said. “I don’t think it (the injury) is in that position. We really don’t know what his status will be this week until we get a little bit closer to Wednesday. He has been treated and rested and hopefully there’s going to be some progress made.”

With the Giants at 5-7 and still having the slightest of hopes to make the playoffs, although it's an extreme longshot, the thought of not having JPP on defense might be a reason why Coughlin is still not putting his star defensive end on season-ending injured reserve and having him get ready for the 2014 season. Maybe if the Giants had lost to the Redskins and dropped to 4-8, Coughlin may have made the decision to de-activate JPP, but with a little hope left in their dwindling season, it could be the reason why JPP isn't the latest Giant starter to land on IR.

In 11 games, JPP has 27 total tackles with two sacks and an interception; the two sacks are a career low since being drafted as a rookie back in 2010 where he had 4.5 sacks.

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26 Responses to “New York Giants Hope to Avoid Placing Jason Pierre-Paul on Season-Ending Injured Reserve”

  1.  Krow says:

    Why would we stretch to keep him active now that the season is trashed ? What’s the upside ?

    •  James Stoll says:

      Yeah I just posted this on the last thread. JPP is now and has been all season an injury mess. It has made him not only invisible but actually a liability to the defense. Last week against the Skins, with Kiwi absorbing most of JPPs reps, the D-Line looked the best it has all season. At least one of Tuck’s sacks was caused directly by Kiwi’s initial pressure and he was stout for the most part against the run.
      It would seem to me that the best approach from here on out is to sit JPP until we are officially eliminated, then IR him. Give his reps to Kiwi. Work in Moore and Jenkins periodically while giving Hankins some of Jenkins’ reps at DT.

  2.  Krow says:

    The more I ponder it the more I’m certain the team made a decision long ago to not try to resign Hakeem Nicks. I think the combination of health, Cruz, and cap dollars made them just write the guy off. Because they’ve showed him no love at all. Nothing. And that’s not how you treat a player you want to retain. Especially one headed to free agency in a few months. This is so different from how they treated Victor Cruz … and he was an RFA ! My gut tells me they wrote off Hakeem already.

    •  James Stoll says:

      I don’t know how the team could do that absent the belief that he is permanently damaged goods. What he and Cruz were able to do in 2011 should make any team want to possess that 1-2 punch.
      Randall has shown nothing in his first 2 seasons to suggest he will ever approach the 2011 version of Nicks (he’s barwly the 2011 version of Manningham), so once they let Nicks go they have no true outside threat, which means Victor gets gobbled up by double team’s all day long.
      You may be right, but it is weird.

      •  Krow says:

        I can’t explain it any other way. No contract talks … no “we love you Hakeem” speeches … then they bench him to teach him a lesson !!! Either they figure he’s gone or they’re idiots.

  3.  Krow says:

    And what’s with this new security step after you submit a comment ?

  4.  James Stoll says:

    I was about to post about what I perceived must be JR’s upcoming dilemma: what do you offer JPP to re-sign given his last 2 seasons and spate of injuries? But I see that he’s signed through 2015. When was that extension negotiated?

  5.  James Stoll says:

    How would you like to be JR looking at these salaries for 2014:
    Meyers — $4M
    Beaty — $4.88 M
    Snee — $7.2M
    Baas — $4.75 M

    Talk about misallocated resources. Yikes!!

    •  James Stoll says:

      The only other big salaries on the roster are:

      Eli — $16.5M
      Victor — $3.9M
      Kiwi — $4.25M
      Antrel — $7M

      Only Kiwi is seriously a value question (assuming it is illegal to question Eli’s value at any price).

      •  James Stoll says:

        That’s $63M +/- tied up in 8 players. The remaining 45 have to share about the same amount.

        •  James Stoll says:

          Heads must roll!!
          Or be restructured

          •  James Stoll says:

            Hmmm. Bad math on my part. $53M +/- tied up in these 8
            That’s a little better
            Not enough to spare the guillotine. But better

            •  jerseyrich says:

              Almost Snees entire salary, most of myers’ too, will be cap savings if they are cut. We could cut baas, but finding a guy better than him for his 1.7 mill cap savings might be tough. If he cant play though, I guess anyone would be better.

            •  fanfor55years says:

              Myers is a team option. Snee might retire.

              At worst they are committed to less than $50MM with a cap that will probably be just short of $130MM. Fact is, they have a lot of maneuvering room.

              Frankly, the only truly “bad” contracts are those with Snee and Baas, the former because the number is an outrage for a guy who hasn’t played well in years, the latter because while it would be fine for a quality center, Baas has not been close to that for us.

              We complain about Beatty and Kiwi, but given the salary ranges at their positions they are cheap contracts. Cruz’s deal is fair for a quality slot receiver, and Eli and Rolle are our two best players and deserve what they’re paid.

              •  jerseyrich says:

                Our 2014 cap number is currently at 108 mill….with some dead wood attached of course….which consists of 36 players under contract. Even with some obvious cuts, I don’t see how you say we are only committed to less than 50 mill.

  6.  jerseyrich says:

    Don’t understand that either about JPP but I was about to say the same thing. Somehow his 5 year rookie contract is for 6 years.

  7.  William says:

    No one commented on my theory that part of the Giants problems are big picture coaching theories that do not mesh well. This season in paticular really shows the issue thru our terrible field position game after game. Why is this happening?, well to me its all about the Fewells approach to defense, the famous cover 2 bend but don’t break, never blitz which results in very few 3 n outs and allows teams to at the very least get 1 or 2 first downs and flop the field position. Unlike Lovie Smith’s version in Chicago we dont offset field position by ballhawking for turnovers or having great special team returners especially in the punting game. This puts the offense into the position of having to create 80 yard plus drives time and time again. With a weak offensive line we are vulnerable to other DC’s aggressive blitzes in the safety of being deep inside our zone and that forces us to punt and give the opposition a short field.
    Look this is subtle and a tad simplistic but I think its extremely valid. Our field position this year in paticular has been insanely bad but its always thru the years been an issue. My point directed at TC and why we seem to be always a game or 2 short of the playoffs is the coordinators and their styles dont seem to mesh well.
    If ur going to play cover 2 then make special teams a priority and please get urself a punt returner. Maybe Spagnola wasnt the greatest DC in the world but his style better meshed with the other coordinators. TC gives his coordinators plenty of leeway to do things their way, PF this last week sat back as he always does even though a blitzing style works well versus RG3, so if thats the case then the big picture theories on how each coordinator likes to get it done better mesh as a whole. I have say thats not happening in NYG land and could be the small thing that has us comong up just short each year.

    •  James Stoll says:

      Not a bad theory.
      Whatever the impact on field position the pain of that system is it more often than not cedes time of possession and game tempo. Plus it is always victimized at the very end of a game, especially when the opponent only needs a FG to win.
      I don’t know if it is a product of his defensive philosophy or not, but when we do occasionally blitz, we are terrible at it We never seem to get there.

    •  fanfor55years says:

      I wrote about this a few years ago. I generally agree, but there’s even more to it. I just don’t think most want to hear about this any longer, thus the silence that greeted your post, which was good.

      I’ll just add that I happen to think one of the reasons the Giants have not got nearly the home field advantage that does, say, Seattle, is Fewell’s defense, which can only be consistently effective if it includes three linemen who can get to the quarterback consistently without any help. You cannot sustain crowd excitement and noise for very long when you keep allowing long drives that you hope to slow on your side of the 30-yard line. An opponent getting 2-3 first downs pretty regularly takes the juice out of the crowd.

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