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John Abraham Mentioned Again for New York Giants with Regard to Jason Pierre-Paul Injury

June 6th, 2013 at 11:30 AM
By Douglas Rush

Last week, John Abraham's name came up as a "perfect landing spot" for the New York Giants in a segment done on Sirius XM Radio by Tim Ryan and Pat Kirwan of CBS Sports.

Both Ryan and Kirwan's reasoning for mentioning Abraham was the departure of Osi Umenyiora, who essentially replaced Abraham in Atlanta when he signed a two-year deal to leave the Giants during free agency.

Abraham's name has come up regarding several teams this off season; the New England Patriots, Denver Broncos, Tennessee Titans and Seattle Seahawks, but none of those teams were willing to sign the veteran pass rusher because of his contract demands, which is why he is still a free agent on the open market.

While he is still open to sign with any team, the Giants' keep coming up again as a landing spot for the 35-year-old, especially now that Jason Pierre-Paul just had surgery to repair a herniated disc in his lower back and is expected to miss 12-14 weeks.

Both Tim Kavanaugh and Dan Graziano of ESPN New York touched on the subject again on Thursday morning in their latest blogs; first from Kavanaugh:

"With news this week that New York Giants DE Jason Pierre-Paul has undergone back surgery, there's been a lot of discussion on how they'll replace him if he isn't back on the field for the start of the season. The current projection has him returning by Aug. 27 — in time, obviously, to play in the season-opener on Sept. 8 — but setbacks are always possible, especially when dealing with a back issue," Kavanaugh wrote. But if JPP does return in time, would there be a place for Abraham? Kavanaugh addresses this as well, by continuing:

"Along the contingency plan lines, there has been some talk that the team could target FA John Abraham, the best of the currently available DEs on the market. To be clear, there's been no sourced reports that the Giants have one iota of interest in doing so; rather, the discussion has been speculative in nature. However, given that the Giants place a high emphasis on having a dominant rotation on the D-line, having another highly skilled veteran in the mix does make sense, so long as Abraham understands and accepts his role (and compensation). "

From Graziano:

"Here's one vote for the Giants to sign pass-rusher John Abraham in the wake of the news of Jason Pierre-Paul's back surgery. I don't know. If Pierre-Paul were certain to miss a couple of months, I could see it. But if they really think he can be back by Week 1 or soon thereafter, then I don't see why they'd be more interested in Abraham now than they were three days ago. Feels more like a Yankees move than a Giants one, to tell you the truth."

Right now, Abraham still is an unlikely target for the Giants because JPP is slated to return to the team in September. If he were out for the season, that would drastically change things for the Giants and their plans. Plus, the team still has options they can look at internally to temporarily take the place of JPP; as Mathias Kiwanuka steps into a starters role with Adrian Tracy, Adewale Ojomo and rookie Damontre Moore looking to move up on the depth chart by making an impact this summer.

In Graziano's segment, he mentions one person who made a public plea for the Giants to sign Abraham was Joshua Ryan of the G-Men HQ blog, who felt the team should not pass up on him in free agency.

"There are other options on the free agent market that would likely cost less but Abraham is easily the best of the options left  and considering how much the Giants prioritize their pass rush, letting him go would be a mistake."

With the Giants having limited cap space, Abraham would basically have to drop his demands and make a personal pitch in order for Jerry Reese and the Giants to bite.

Again, don't expect the Giants to jump at signing Abraham, but also don't be surprised to hear his name come up during the summer while JPP recovers from the back surgery.

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Tags: Damontre Moore, Football, Jason Pierre-Paul, John Abraham, Mathias Kiwanuka, New York, New York Giants, NFL, Osi Umenyiora

9 Responses to “John Abraham Mentioned Again for New York Giants with Regard to Jason Pierre-Paul Injury”

  1.  GOAT56 says:

    No. I said it last week when JPP’s surgery was first announced. These guys are just playing fantasy football. You only thing about signing a guy like Abraham if JPP was out for the season or down the road if the young DEs are failing to impress we get into the preseason.

    It really makes sense for Abraham to go back to ATL because they still need a pass rusher. Their problem is that they only have one real pass rusher and they still have the same issue.

  2.  Dirt says:

    Coughlin, ever the d|ckhead

    @MikeGarafolo: Coughlin says JPP was bothered by his back last year “but I’m sure there are a lot of people around the league that feel that way.”

    •  norm says:


      I know it’s the NFL. I know that these guys are paid good money to pay through pain. But at some point doesn’t it make sense to take steps to ensure the long term health of your best players?

      Reports are that JPP needed repeated epidurals just to make it through 16 games. And yet, if IIRC, he consistently led the team in most snaps played per week; often on the field for as many as 75-90% of the defensive plays every game.

      Sorry, that just seems woefully shortsighted to me. If you are aware that your star player is relying on regular epidurals just to take the field, then why the hell are you riding him like some cheap claiming horse at Aqueduct?

      Maybe the criticism that’s been directed at the Giants training and medical staff for the rash of injuries has been misplaced. Perhaps some of that ire should go to the coaches who need to do a better job of distributing the workload among all 53 players on the roster.

      •  rlhjr says:

        Like I said yesterday, the kid is hard as nails. He’s a man.
        But the NFL tradition of playing in pain should come to a screeching halt when it comes to back, brain and joint injury. As you put it Norm, “doesn’t it make sense to take steps to ensure the long term health of your best players?”

        And lets add to that any human being in your employ.

        The answer is yes, the blame is the accepted culture and owner’s crying about how much it costs them for a superstar caliber player to sit.

        The bottom line………”THEY SHOOT HORSES, DON’T THEY?”

  3.  rlhjr says:

    I think the Giants would be wise to utilize JPP as a third down specialists his first few games back. That way he is not rushed and can get used to the flow of full speed games again. Again I feel he’ll recover 100 percent. But you always give back issues time. And let’s face it, the kid aint playing badminton.

    Also, what nags an athlete the level of JPP (Dwight Howard) is mind numbing pain for a mere mortal like me.

  4.  rlhjr says:

    As far as Abraham is concerned, he’s like every other vet who did not get paid.

    You will know how much he loves the game and wants to play because he’ll be playing for the absolute minimum and maybe some gaudy incentives.

  5.  CT GIANT says:

    rlhjr: Good points. Having had several back issues, a herniated disc is the least likely
    to do “more damage”, as it relates to the word Hernia, which I had surgery for two.
    The only thing one gets relative to this surgery is pain relief and that should be a real plus for JPP.
    The fact he’s playing football, is simply part of this, and if all goes well, I expect him to be much better, without pain. In most cases, this helps, and is far from being a constant issue, if it happens again, down the road, well that spells concern, but not now.
    Coughlin as we all know, does not play rookies often, but both in the WR situation and now JPP, he has to look at Tracy, Ojomo, and others to step up.
    Ojomo, who played with JPP, at Central Florida, 6’4 270lbs, strong as a bull, and a non stop motor, may prove his 4 sacks in preseason were not a “fluke”.

    •  rlhjr says:

      Dead on brother. The only reason doctors treat disks with surgery is the imediate relief of pain. Given time and proper rest and exeorcise the back will heal on its own. The issue is can you stand the pain for a year or two.
      My answer and mostly every pro player would be not only no, but hell no.

      Although I suspect Kujo is a lover of pain……………………..

  6.  CT GIANT says:


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