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Former New York Giants QB Scott Brunner Proud to Have Mentored Baltimore Ravens’ Joe Flacco

February 5th, 2013 at 7:00 AM
By Casey Sherman

Scott Brunner, former quarterback for the New York Giants from 1980-83, helped prepare Baltimore Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco for the 2008 NFL Draft, working mainly on his mobility. It was his ability to extend the play that helped Flacco make the big plays necessary to win the Super Bowl as well as MVP honors on Sunday.

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"I am most proud of the fact that we kind of debunked the myth that he wasn't a mobile quarterback and he couldn't get out of his own way if he had to," Brunner said to ESPN by telephone on Monday. "Many times, he escaped the pressure and showed his athleticism. He may not be the guy that breaks the 50-yard run, but he can make plays."

Flacco, a native of Audobon, New Jersey, threw 11 touchdowns and no interceptions this postseason; something that's never been done by any quarterback in the history of the NFL. In the Super Bowl, he was 22 of 33 for 287 yards and three touchdowns.

Brunner and Flacco, who are each University of Delaware alums, trained together in Martinsville, New Jersey at the TEST Football Academy, where Brunner trains young offensive players.

Brunner believes Flacco proved he is an elite quarterback with his performance this post-season and expects him to be paid appropriately.

"I think the elite QB thing is really overdone," said Brunner, who also is a partner at a firm called Net Worth Management Group. "Certainly, the way he played … it was typical Joe. He remained unflappable throughout the game, executed early and made some great plays. And when it looked like things were sliding away in the second half, he kind of hoisted the team on his back."

"Some people, those doubters who don't want to believe that he is a top-notch quarterback, will continue to find flaws in his game," Brunner added. "And people who are fans of Joe Flacco will point to his strengths. I think, more than anything, his playoff record stands on its own. Nobody has more playoff wins than him in the last five years."

Brunner believes their work together in 2008 has helped Flacco become the high level quarterback he is today.

"We got him started in the right direction," Brunner said. "That is what I am most proud of."

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16 Responses to “Former New York Giants QB Scott Brunner Proud to Have Mentored Baltimore Ravens’ Joe Flacco”

  1.  Krow says:

    Didn’t Scott dump his season tickets over the PSL?

  2.  LUZZ says:

    Man, those were dark days.

  3.  rlhjr says:

    Parcells had dark days as well. He actually favored Brunner over Simms.
    Brunner started the Giants playoff game against the 49′ers while Simms rode the pine. I think that was because Simms challenged Parcells openly.
    Simms wanted to throw the ball down field. Parcells wanted ball control.

    Lucky for Giant history “Tuna” pulled his head out of his ****. The next time the Giants appeared in the playoff’s the handled their business…..with Simms.

    •  LUZZ says:

      Yes, I recall.

      Also, Simms had a terrible start to his career due to injuries early on. It took him a few years to get on the field on a regular basis.

      On the other hand, Brunner was complete garbage his whole time with the Giants. i was 8, 9, and 10 years old during the “Brunner era” but those horrible days are burned into my memory, which is why this current Giants era is so sweet to me.

      •  JimStoll says:

        that history does not sound right to me
        Brunner played from 80-83
        the Giants made the playoffs only once 1 time in those 4 yeras — 1981
        Simms was injured that year
        Parcells didn’t become head coach until 1983
        it is true he picked Brunner to start over Simms, but after a 1-4-1 start he turned to Simms in the Eagles game only to watch simms break his thumb on an Eagle defenders helmet
        The Giants finished 3-12-1 that year, Brunner was either released or traded, and Parcells was nearly fired
        the next season he started simms and the Giants finished 9-7, made the playoffs, and Simms threw for 4,000

        In other words, Brunner never started over Simms in a playoff game

        •  Chad Eldred says:

          Those are my fist vivid memories as a Giant fan, I was young, but this sounds right to me. I definitely remember Simms leaving the field after the broken thumb. He left the field holding his hand in a towel.

        •  rlhjr says:

          Check the Frisco game Jim. Bruner started. And I remember being fckn pissed. Parcells seemed foolish to me at that time. And I was a smart a$$ kid at the time. Not too much different from now. Just better looking
          LMAO……………..

  4.  LUZZ says:

    I remember the injuries setting Simms back more than Brunner beating him out.

  5.  The Original G Man says:

    I clearly remember Brunner starting over Simms and losing to SF in the playoffs. They beat Philly in the 1st round that year.

  6.  The Original G Man says:

    And Wikipedia knows all …

    “In 1981, Simms threw for 2,031 yards, 11 touchdowns, and 9 interceptions on 54.4% completion percentage[12] before suffering a separated shoulder in a November 15 loss to the Washington Redskins.[13] With Simms out, the Giants went on a run led by Scott Brunner and advanced to the second round of the playoffs. Simms suffered a torn knee ligament in a preseason game against the New York Jets, preventing him from playing the entire 1982 season.”

    •  Chad Eldred says:

      Holy crap, had forgotten about the knee thing. Now that you said it, I do remember the victory of Philadelphia. Getting old sucks, everything gets cloudy.

      •  The Original G Man says:

        LT’s rookie year. Forget Wikipedia saying their run was “led by Scott Brunner” … LT and the linebackers got us to the playoffs.

    •  rlhjr says:

      I stand corrected. Thank you G Man and forgive me JimStoll.
      I am really confused now. LMAO

  7.  rlhjr says:

    sonnymooks penned a really sweet post a few threads back.
    Let’s get it straight;
    A pass heavy attack like Green Bay, New England, Atlanta in today’s NFL get’s you a front row seat to watch the latter stages of the NFL playoff. Right off the bat, I do not envy Jerry Reese.

    I always have and always will put money on BALANCE between running and passing and a lights out defense. It may be a coincidence, but that approach also is the most fugal in todays pass happy NFL.

    It also makes it pretty easy to put an offensive line together. You create a mix between guys who can protect, and guys who can bulldoze. But they If you are lucky, you maybe have two or three guys who excel at both.

    The old adage about linemen being better with run blocking than pass blocking does not apply to the current Giant offensive line. As we have seen these guys basically suck at both forms of the art. The exception was Beatty and maybe Bothe.

    Value of wide outs vs. running backs vs. linemen; the priority is the line.
    If they are good, the rest will follow. For many years the way to build an offense was:
    1. QB
    2. LOT
    3. RB
    4. WR

    Let’s just talk offense shall we? What has really changed? ANSWER:
    Not a God blessed thing. Natta….Zip.

    You want a good football team? You have to run the ball. You want a great football team you have to throw down field off play action. You want a sustained presents in the playoffs and beyond? Build a really good front seven and at least one superior safety and corner back on defense.

    That this approach makes good fiscal since for a lot of NFL teams is one thing.
    The FACT that it is also the image of what champion teams are is bliss.
    The Giants have money issues. They also have underperforming players who if they cut will still count against them. This is stifling to this organization.
    But it’s a fact of life that must be dealt with. In fact it has to be lived with for at least another year. Osi is gone and Tuck should be.

    The way ahead is clear. First patience is required because the fix is going to take about two years. Second is for the brain trust to concentrate on building each line, linebackers and corners.

    Running backs have ALWAYS been easy to find. Multipurpose (run, receive speed/power) backs are not. Again, this is nothing new. The Giants currently have two backs that are going to fit the bill. They are Brown and Wilson.

    The Giants must have versatile players. And they will most likely come from the draft. Any time you have to pull a player on offense or defense that keys the opponent about what you are up to. Size, speed, power & athleticism.
    When you have guys who play every down, you own an advantage.

    When you build balance into your offense, you will most likely be playing in the year’s final game more often than not. Those attributes on offense and a defense capable of attacking the passer, stopping the run and pressing receivers will allow you to collect Lombardi’s.

  8.  fanfor55years says:

    Team-building is very hard in a salary-capped league. You MUST largely do it through the draft and you must have an outstanding quarterback. The problem is, if you have the latter you are nearly always picking relatively late in the draft, and that makes the building process even tougher because in most years by the time the draft reaches your fourth pick practically all the good players are gone. You’d better have a scouting group that is superb, which is also hard to retain when your personnel people, who know where all your great scouts are start to pick them off for their new teams.

    And even when you do everything right, soon enough comes the fifth year that your draftees are in the league and get to free agency, at which point you have to allow a number of your best young players whom you’ve developed to leave. It’s a constant stream of replenishing what you’ve got, knowing that it takes awhile for the young players you’ve brought in to get to the point where they can do what your lost players were doing in their third and fourth years in the league. It’s a constant stream of losses, gains, and plans that can be ruined via injury or some fool GM offering one of your prime “keepers” way too much money to be sustainable under your budget.

    Don’t kid yourself, Jerry Reese has a high-stress, difficult, job. It’s a great job, but like most great jobs it comes with lots of tough days and nights.

    One of the decisions any great GM has to make is where he will NOT spend his money so he can spend it where it fits the team philosophy and needs. I think it’s safe to say that by now we all know that the Giants under the John Mara/Jerry Reese/Tom Coughlin regime have decided they will not spend lots of dollars on linebackers or tight ends. I believe they will have also decided not to spend excessive amounts of dollars on slot receivers and defensive tackles. They also have clearly taken the approach that retaining older offensive linemen who have worked together for years can make up for a lesser degree of talent at those positions thanks to great position coaching and continuity.

    The Giants want to spend their money on a pass rush (largely defensive ends who are tremendously athletic), the quarterback, outside receivers, and the defensive backfield. All of that makes sense in today’s NFL. Lots of sense.

    But, every once in awhile comes a draft where they would have an opportunity to fill in areas of weakness that they don’t want to spend too much money on, and I think this 2013 draft may be that. The Giants need help on the offensive line, at cornerback, at defensive tackle, and at linebacker (they also need a strong-legged place-kicker). There is enormous depth in this draft at offensive line and defensive tackle, and enough potentially-elite corners that they can grab one early if they like. Reese will always speak the BPA game, and to some extent he follows that practice, but it would be EASY this April to weight his board toward crying needs and as a result pick up some quality players right where they need them. I’m excited at that prospect.

    •  rlhjr says:

      Understood. I just hope Reese, Coughlin and Mara slightly readjust their priorities. Because they need to bring some size/speed athleticism to the neglected positions you mentioned in your post.

      That is my entire issue. Every few draft cycles, they should stock those positions with worthy talent.

      DT, SAM, MIKE and Corner are very much “need” positions of defense.
      On offense, ROT, Guard and Center need talent. Perhaps it’s already on the roster given last year’s picks. I really hope so. It’s just my opinion that time may be hard until those positions are properly addressed with talented players.

      And I really do not envy Jerry Reese. I know his task is not easy. However, when you love what you do, it’s hard to call it work.

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