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Poor Eli Manning: NFL Regular Season Week 16

December 26th, 2012 at 8:30 AM
By Dan Benton

"Poor Eli Manning” is a compilation of quotes by both the media and fans about New York Giants quarterback and Super Bowl XLII & XLVI MVP Eli Manning.

Despite his success, negativity and doubt have followed Peyton’s younger brother since the moment he was traded from the San Diego Chargers to the New York Giants on draft day of 2004. Regardless of what he does or how well he performs – even in a league that lives and dies by the motto, “What have you done for me lately?” – he is questioned and criticized.

'Thread the Needle' photo (c) 2010, AJ  Guel - license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/

In Sunday's humiliating 33-14 loss to the Baltimore Ravens, Manning was under constant pressure and completed only 14 of his 28 passes (50%) for 150 yards and one touchdown. At one point during the game, Manning had been hit on 10 of his first 17 dropbacks.

There's no denying that 2012 has been far from Eli's best year. He hasn't had the fourth quarter magic we're accustomed to seeing, and the team from top to bottom has been out of sorts. The reality is he's part of the problem, but despite injuries and an offensive line that does him few favors at times, he's the leader and the captain. Accordingly, he's going to receive the brunt of the criticism. After all, if he doesn't, there would be no such thing as "Poor Eli Manning."

Still, criticism of Manning is always taken to new heights when the opportunity presents itself … and during the second half of this season, it has presented itself quite a bit. So back again are the questions: "is Eli elite?" coupled with the typical jabs at his looks and personality.

Jim Mora, WDSU-TV

"“It’s hard for me to put Eli in the category with Brady, Peyton and Drew. He’s been a little inconsistent."

Tony Boselli, Dial Global

"Eli's inconsistent, he's all over the place as far as performance. It's feast or famine."

David Roth, Wall Street Journal

"Eli Manning has had plenty of reasons to perfect his pout in the last few weeks."

Nick Kostora, Bleacher Report

"It is maddening how inconsistent this team has been, from Eli Manning and Justin Tuck all the way down the roster. … Eli Manning failed to establish offensive consistency or presence."

Sportige

"You need a big time quarterback, something Eli Manning hasn’t really looked like in the second half of the season. After a promising start to the year, it looks like Manning is back to his old ways."

Nolan, Talking Squawk

"Eli Manning is the most overrated quarterback in the NFL. Has any player in NFL history benefited from his family name and media market more than Eli Manning?"

Rubin Taylor, Giants 101 Facebook

"I swear if I could get my [expletive] hands on Eli I would choke [him].

Vito Rappa, Giants 101 Facebook

"Eli is the luckiest QB in the history of the NFL, still can't figure it out how he won 2 SB's."

Shabba Ranks, Twitter

"I wonder what Eli Manning does outside of football. Like how does he manage real life looking and acting how he does."

Austin Pikulski, Twitter

"Eli manning is the most overrated player in the NFL."

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37 Responses to “Poor Eli Manning: NFL Regular Season Week 16”

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  1.  Krow says:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giants/hard_to_find_giant_who_had_an_up_fGWbNNzuUmnv6TXIFCIWLM

    “Even in bad seasons, there are good players. Even when expectations are not met, there are those who rise above the expectations. A study of the Giants’ roster, though, reveals why they are about to be on the outside looking in come playoff time, why a year after ringing in the holiday season so joyously someone spiked their eggnog with castor oil, why they have regressed to the point they aren’t merely losing, they are barely competitive.”

  2.  James Stoll says:

    Richly deserved comments this season

  3.  rlhjr says:

    I just don’t see some of the issues being fixed any time soon.
    We’re talking about replacing players and in some cases leaders on particular units (DL, OL, LB and CB) that desperately need leadership and ability.

    You have to be awful lucky to get all of that in a single draft/FA cycle.
    Hell you have the damn lucky to replace all that in two draft/FA cycles

    FOOD FOR THOUGHT:
    “The defensive tackle is assigned to clog up the gap he’s assigned to, or rush through his man to get to the quarterback. The more often he wins his battle in the trenches, the more often the the defense will stop the play.

    At The Snap
    When the ball is snapped, the defensive tackle is going to fire off the ball as hard as he can, at the same time reading what the offensive lineman is going to do. Whichever way he gets blocked, he will “fight pressure with pressure.” In other words, he will fight to go the opposite direction that he feels like that offensive lineman is pushing. He needs to get his hands to the chest, and his eyes in the gap he’s assigned to.

    If Run

    If the defensive tackle reads run, he’ll fight pressure with pressure to fill his assigned gap and either make the tackle, or cause the play to bounce outside.

    If Pass

    If the defensive tackle reads pass, he’s got to get separation and get to the quarterback in his pass rush lane. As a general rule, the defensive tackles will push the pocket in from the front, and the defensive ends will collapse the pocket from the outside.

    Defensive tackles are two of the most critical positions on the defensive unit.
    If they can do their job well, they make the other defenders’ jobs easier.”

    YEAH, RIGHT……………..

  4.  demo3356 says:

    Eli has been horrible for much of this year but having Nicks hurt for nearly all the season, Bennett and Hixon for much of it hasn’t helped him much. Loosing his QB Coach and Manning in the off season also hurt him. He is a champion and a competitor so I look for him to rebound big time in 2013, Much like he did in having his best season ever last year after the interception filled 2010 campaign..

  5.  demo3356 says:

    krow and I have been talking for a while about the tough decisions JR has this off season and how this team may/ should look different in 2013. Now Ralph V (must read G101) has an article about all the guys who may not be back next year..

    That won’t be easy, even with a top coach and franchise quarterback in place. There are huge holes on this roster, and some key players — two-time champions — who will have to say good bye. Even if the Giants miraculously sneak into the playoffs next weekend, that’s not going to change.

    So as the Giants ponder a season seemingly gone wrong, Reese will be pondering how to make it right. And here are some of the biggest decisions he faces in the offseason:

    CAN THEY GET ANOTHER YEAR OUT OF JUSTIN TUCK?
    Tuck is a warrior and a two-time Super Bowl champion who, not insignificantly, played tremendous during both title runs. However, injuries and time have taken their toll and, by any measure, he’s simply not the player he was.

    He had just five sacks last year, during a personally difficult season, before revitalizing himself for the playoffs. This season he’s dipped to three and he’s no longer a pass-rushing force. Worse, he’ll be 30 next season and due $4.5 million in salary.

    That’s not a ton of money and he is a team leader. The Giants also will need defensive ends with Osi Umenyiora almost certain to go elsewhere as a free agent. But the hard question has to be asked: What does Tuck have left? And what is it worth?

    PAY CUT OR STRAIGHT CUT FOR COREY WEBSTER?
    There was a time early last year when it looked like Webster was on the verge of becoming one of the NFL’s top cornerbacks. The deterioration in his play since then has been startling. An exclamation point was added on Sunday when Joe Flacco ignored rookie Jayron Hosley and picked on Webster with every throw.

    The Giants say he’s healthy, and assuming he is, Webster’s performance this year isn’t worth anywhere near the $7 million the Giants owe him for 2013. But cutting him outright may not be the way to go for an already thin secondary. Prince Amukamara — the Giants’ 2011 first round pick — seemed ready to take over, but would going with him and Hosley be too much of a risk?

    If Webster is willing, maybe a return at a reduced rate would work. A cut of one kind or another seems due.

    HOW MUCH ARE VICTOR CRUZ AND HAKEEM NICKS WORTH?
    The Giants have already opened up talks on a long-term deal with Cruz, though he’ll only be a restricted free agent after the season, so they could easily retain him for less than $3 million. At the right price, it’s in their interest to sign him long term. If the price isn’t right, they can afford to wait.

    The bigger question is Nicks, who is signed through 2013 at $2.425 million. He’ll surely seek an extension, but how do you judge the value of a potential top-10 receiver with a problem staying healthy? Receivers have become $10 million-a-year players, but Nicks’ body has been battered and injuries reduced him to a possession receiver this season.

    It might be better to let him play out his deal and see where the market is next offseason. It’ll be a tough sell to Nicks if they don’t pay him while giving a big contract to Cruz.

    TIME TO SAY GOOD BYE TO ANOTHER VET ON THE O-LINE?
    It wasn’t easy for the Giants to cut Shaun O’Hara and Rich Seubert two summers ago, nor was it easy to let Kareem McKenzie go last year.

    Now is it David Diehl’s turn to go? There’s no doubt the offensive line will have to be rebuilt, and it wouldn’t hurt to keep the versatile Diehl, who would play any position. But he’ll turn 33 next season and is due $4.1 million. He also missed three games this season and was out-performed by veteran Sean Locklear before he got hurt.

    Diehl unfairly became a whipping boy for the fans. The problems on the line weren’t his fault, but the Giants need to get younger and quicker up front, meaning Diehl will likely be let go unless he’s willing to accept a reduced salary and backup role.

    SPEND MONEY ON THE INSIDE OR OUTSIDE?
    Normally the Giants would prefer to pay for what they know, but will they still feel the same way coming off such a disappointing year? Among their own key unrestricted free agents this March will be tackle Will Beatty, guard Kevin Boothe, tight ends Martellus Bennett, Bear Pascoe and Travis Beckum, LB Chase Blackburn, safety Kenny Phillips, kicker Lawrence Tynes and Umenyiora. They won’t get them all back at a bargain rate, either.

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/tough-roster-decisions-await-giants-offseason-article-1.1227331#ixzz2GAdc7uEr

    •  rlhjr says:

      Completely agree.

    •  demo3356 says:

      Hixon, Barden, Carr, Andre Brown, Locklear, Tracey, Bernard, Rogers, Rivers, Tryon and Stevie Brown are all also Free agents.. Thats 21 Free Agents and 5 guys (Tuck, Deihl, Webster, Snee and Bradshaw) that are ALL getting paid far more than they are worth.. Gonna be a very different looking team next season

      •  nick86 says:

        Yeah this going to be a REALLY interesting offseason. You have to think that the Giants will part ways with a few of these guys OR bring them back at reduced rate. Very reduced rate for a few of them.

  6.  rlhjr says:

    More definitions: “LINEBACKERS”

    “Have a combination of size and quickness. Linebackers are the multitaskers of a football team’s defense, as they are available for defense against both the run and the pass. You’ll need to be big and strong to close running lanes and take down a running back; you’ll need to be quick to help cover receivers.

    Learn effective tackling techniques. Stay low and keep your eyes on the ball carrier. Wrap your arms around his waist and use your body weight and momentum to drive him into the ground.

    Keep your eye on the quarterback , follow his movements and read the play based on what he is doing. Linebackers are the leaders of the defense and need to be able to read the play more than players in any other position.

    As soon as you read a run play, go after the running back. If you read a pass play, determine if you have a lane open for a sack or need to cover a receiver.
    Be flexible and quick in your decision-making. You’ll need to know where to line up before the snap and have the observational skills to make changes if the offense calls an audible.”

    TRANSLATION, BIG FAST MEAN INSTINCTIVE MOTHA FKR for those of you who EVER thought the team was even OK in that department after Taylor, Carson Banks Kelly/Reasons and finally Armstead departed.

  7.  demo3356 says:

    Eagles are 1-10 since they beat us to go 3-1 back in September. No excuse for the Giants not to go out with a victory this Sunday

    •  Levito says:

      The Ravens were on a 3 game losing streak, had fired their OC, and were clueless on both sides of the ball. Then Perry Fewell came along and gifted them with an experiment at defense, and handed the game away. Don’t think the coaching staff isn’t capable of outsmarting themselves again this weekend.

  8.  demo3356 says:

    It is more than likely that Minnesota and Dallas lose on Sunday. The only hard one will be Chicago losing to Detroit. The Bears have lost 5 of their last 7 and that DLine of Detroit is a nightmare mathcup for that joke of an offensive line the bears have

  9.  Krow says:

    I would hate for all the ducks to line up … and we lose to Philly in Junkie Dad’s and Dog Killer’s last game. That would hurt like hell.

  10.  Chad Eldred says:

    Shabba Ranks knows a great deal about how a career can plummet into oblivion in the blink of an eye. Eli should pay attention to that one.

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