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New York Giants’ Corey Webster Unfairly Blamed for 56-Yard Touchdown of Bengals WR A.J. Green

November 14th, 2012 at 4:05 PM
By Paul Tierney

 New York Giants cornerback Corey Webster has taken a tremendous amount of criticism this season. He had about as bad of a seven-game stretch to start 2012 as any cornerback in the NFL. Webster has given up four touchdowns this season and quarterbacks have completed over 60 percent of passes thrown in his direction. Although Webster has played better as of late, he's deserved every bit of the criticism that has come his way so far this season. However, he was not responsible for Cincinnati Bengals' wide receiver AJ Green's 56-yard touchdown.

Although it appeared that Webster allowed Green to run straight past him and into the end zone, Giants secondary coach Peter Guinta said Webster was not at fault on the play.

“Corey did what he was supposed to do," Guinta said.“Corey’s thing is he should have kind of realized what was going on, and being the veteran guy, trying to protect the other guys, he should have been a little more patient .”

Guinta would not reveal who blew the coverage, but the film indicates that Stevie Brown was responsible for the deep left half of the field in a cover two zone. Brown attempted to disguise the coverage by lining up as a single over the top safety before the ball was snapped. However, instead of dropping into his zone, Brown bit hard on play action. Corey Webster failed to realize that Brown was out of position, and allowed A.J. Green to run past him.

Stevie Brown has been an incredible story so far this season for the Giants. His five interceptions and two fumble recoveries have enabled Big Blue to stay in some games they otherwise would have lost. However, Brown is still painfully inexperienced in Perry Fewell's system. He's athleticism and overall talent are clearly NFL caliber, but Brown is not yet a fully functioning member of Big Blue's defense.

This play highlights the Giants need to get healthy over the bye week. Kenny Phillips is one of the best over the top safeties in the NFL. There is no way to know whether he would have been in the right position on this play, but he's more experienced and understands the Giants' defensive scheme in greater detail than Brown. If the Giants had a healthy Kenny Phillips in position on AJ Green's 56 yard touchdown, the entire game could have played out differently.

The Giants defense has been suspect as of late. It's imperative that the players use this bye week to get healthy and the coaches do some serious self scouting. A combination of both just might help this team maintain a stranglehold on the NFC East.

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Tags: Cincinnati, Cincinnati Bengals, Corey Webster, Football, Kenny Phillips, New York, New York Giants, NFC, NFC East, NFL, Perry Fewell, Stevie Brown

43 Responses to “New York Giants’ Corey Webster Unfairly Blamed for 56-Yard Touchdown of Bengals WR A.J. Green”

  1.  fanfor55years says:

    I suspect almost all of us here knew that was Brown’s mistake, not Webster’s. But Corey has still stunk the joint up most of the season and needs to pick up his game (although he HAS played a bit better of late).

    •  BigBlueGiant says:

      while yes, it was Brown’s mistake Webster disappointed big time on just throwing his hands up in the air and totally giving up on the play. embarrassing. Hustle next time.

      Also, someone should teach this guys to HOLD and take a penalty should that happen again. Yes, it’s unethical, but F it. Rather have a 5 yd and a 1st down than a 56 yd TD.

      •  kinsho says:

        The only way Webster would have ever caught AJ from behind is if JPP picked him up and launched him towards Green.

        There’s no point in wasting energy to ‘hustle’

        •  BigBlueGiant says:

          totally disagree.

          I hate seeing anyone giving up on a play. It’s total laziness.

          Webster could have TRIED.

          Effort goes a long way. Standing there with you hands up looking around is even worse.

          •  kinsho says:

            Effort goes a long way how? It’d be even more demoralizing for the defense to see Webster huffing and puffing into the end zone five minutes after Green scored the TD.

            •  TonyMW says:

              I have to disagree also. I’ve watched that play several times and all I see is Webster basically jogging a second after the ball comes out of Dalton’s hand. Of course there was no way he could’ve caught him once the ball was caught, only because he gave half effort before the fact.

              •  TonyMW says:

                And yes, I know it was Brown’s “fault”. From what I can tell though, Webster had his back to the QB so he should have recognized what was happening. I don’t care who missed what, you make your strongest effort to impede a wide open receiver, regardless if you can get there or not. “Effort” is what wins these guy their jobs in camp in the first place.

                •  kinsho says:

                  ‘“Effort” is what wins these guy their jobs in camp in the first place.’

                  It’s not just effort. It’s also football intelligence, physical features, and how well you can make plays on the ball. Guys who put in lots of effort do end up getting cut. Watch any season of Hard Knocks.

                  And while you’re at it, watch some more football games. You’ll notice that defenses always tend to get gassed by the fourth quarter, or that running backs tend to do much better in the second half versus the first half. Hmm…wonder why.

                  Part of football is knowing when and where to exert yourself in order to make the maximum impact on the game.

                  •  TonyMW says:

                    So much of what your saying is laughable, so out of respect to you, this will be my last post on the subject.

                    I don’t care if you scored a 40 on the Wonderlic, and have the prototypical build for your position, if you don’t show effort you won’t have a job. I never said effort is the only thing you need. If that was the case, I’d be the QB for the Giants. There’s a reason why coaches say to play to the whistle, and there’s a reason why players take short passes to the endzone in camp. Effort.

                    Again, where did I ever say that players don’t get tired? I simply pointed out that you insinuating Webster would be out of energy by the end of the game if he followed through on that play is absolutely ridiculous. I actually can’t believe that came from someone who seemed to previously show extensive knowledge about the game.

                    So let me just jot this down in my handy note pad… time a WR gives up on a route where a play could’ve been made, he was just saving his energy for later in the game. Got it.

                    •  kinsho says:

                      But in one of the Madden NFL video games, players have like a stamina meter, dude. A stamina meter that like goes down as the game goes on….so guys in real life have that same stamina meter, right? RIGHT? If it’s in Madden, it gotta be in real life too!

                      Nah, I’m just playing. You’re right in that coaches encourage playing til the end of the whistle. Some coaches also encourage sportsmanship and showing your opponent respect through the entire game. And I’d wager all coaches (outside of maybe Schwartz and whoever coached the Raiders last year) also encourage their players not to commit any silly penalties. In an ideal world, players would do everything that’s expected of them, regardless of the situation. But that’s in an ideal world. In the real world, though, football players don’t always follow through because they’re human.

                      It’s not just them…I see it all the time – guys not following through on their duty because they’re too tired or too emotionally deflated or whatever. It happens everywhere, especially football. Yes, in this case, we have guys that are professionally trained athletes paid millions of dollars to perform well at their duty, but they’re still human. As much as we may like to do so, we can’t turn any football player into a machine capable of giving us maximum effort every single play. And we certainly can’t expect that from a second-tier corner that’s getting up there in age. So I’d rather a guy like Webster pace himself during the game so that he still has some fuel and sharpness in him down the stretch.

                      But this point is moot cause I agreed with you guys anyway. I now think Webster should have tried harder on that play on the off chance that Green might have slipped before breaking into the end zone.

        •  TonyMW says:

          No offense man, really, but that last sentence is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen. Have you played football? I never made it past the HS level due to a knee injury, but if I ever said or did anything that even insinuated that I felt like “there’s no point in wasting energy to hustle”, I’d STILL be running stairs, 11 yrs later.

          You hustle and compete to the whistle, no matter what. Even if it’s only to show the young guns how it’s done.

          •  Dirt says:

            Which is why I was so embarrased to be a fan Sunday. Quitters all around.

            Also, that ball was thrown in a manner that forced Green to slow down and wait for the ball. Maybe Webster gets there if he hustles. Or he’s there if Green stumbles changing gears like he did.

            •  TonyMW says:

              Exactly. I wouldn’t think that play was that big of a deal if it wasn’t such a common occurrence. Lackadaisical play has been this teams downfall thus far.

          •  kinsho says:

            High school football doesn’t equal professional football. As a kid, you’re expected to give it your all.

            As a professional, you have to last and play effectively for the entire game. Effort only matters when you can make a difference. And once again, the young guns don’t give much more of a damn than you think if they see you running into the end zone well after the guy made a touchdown. The young guns care if you come close to making an impact because of your effort.

            •  TonyMW says:

              Wow dude. Are you seriously saying that Webster would’ve been gassed for the rest of game if he put forth effort on that play? He should just retire right now then. He COULD’VE made a difference, that’s the point. You mention hindsight in one of your other posts, and that fits here perfectly. Hindsight says it didn’t matter much, but for all we knew Green could’ve stumbled/slipped or bobbled the ball. I guess it doesn’t matter because they’re not in HS, right?

              Any sport at any level is all about effort. Players wouldn’t have jobs if they didn’t give effort. Players get benched because they don’t give effort. Keep on telling yourself that.

  2.  Krow says:

    C-Web was a big part of 2 Superbowls. It’ll be a sad day when his career is over. But I agree, he has to up his game … because that $7,000,000 cap number isn’t getting any smaller.

    •  kinsho says:

      He’s a free agent next year, right? Can’t we negotiate lower numbers for his new contract?

      •  TonyMW says:

        He’ll be a FA in 2014. I think they’re in a bit of tough situation with Webster though. I’m no capologist, but I don’t think you can restructure a contract in it’s final year because there are no subsequent years to spread out the cap hit. His only options are to take a cut for his last year or sign a new cap friendly contract. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think cutting him outright would cost as much as keeping him.

        •  demo3356 says:

          you can restructure, you just have to add years to the deal

          •  TonyMW says:

            Yeah, I actually figured that out shortly after I posted. So it’s basically the same contract with added years, correct? So his 2013 salary would still be 7 million pre-restructure?

            •  demo3356 says:

              he’d still get paid 7 million but it would be bonus and only count 2-3 towards next years cap and 2-3 2nd and third year

  3.  jfunk says:

    I guarantee you this isn’t the first big play that’s been Stevie Brown’s fault. He’s gotten a lot of those picks by guessing and jumping routes.

    And it’s got nothing to do with Fewell’s system. “Cover your half of the field deep” is neither a complex nor difficult assignment.

    Stevie guessed wrong. It’ll keep happening until he learns to play more disciplined…which will also lead to a decline in his big plays.

    One thing he really does have going for him though is his hands. He’s shown that if you put the ball within his reach, he WILL catch it. That’ll lead to QBs being afraid to test him when they do see him in the right spot (which will also lead to reduced big plays).

    And thus why KP is a great player despite rarely being seen around the ball on TV. Nobody throws at him.

  4.  Levito says:

    Also in: Pat Flaherty said it wasn’t Diehl’s fault that defenders ran right past Diehl en route to Eli.

  5.  Nosh.0 says:

    Note to Corey Webster, even if you were expecting help and it wasn’t there, you’re allowed to chase after the WR and wait until the play is over to yell at Stevie Brown. But I understand, better to point at Stevie Brown while the QB still has the ball, that way fans will know it’s not your fault. We don’t want a scenario where you actually chase after the WR, and possibly tackle him because the QB under threw it, leading to fans thinking you got burned.

    At some point during these next 6 games a Safety will blow an assignment. And it’d be nice to know that our CB’s won’t simply give up on the play if and when that happens.

    •  GOAT56 says:

      Yeah regardless Webster showed a lack of hustle that wasn’t good. He might not catch him but he needs to hustle. The ball was undertrown and there was a slight chance he could have made a play.

    •  kinsho says:

      Webster’s getting older. No need for somebody like him to waste energy on trying to prevent the unpreventable.

  6.  JimStoll says:

    didn’t we do this debate, with these exact same posts, Monday?

  7.  BigBlueGiant says:

    again, next time in this situation, Cweb or someone else needs to take the penalty.

    •  kinsho says:

      A penalty wouldn’t have been a bad idea if either Webster or Stevie Brown were even in the same part of the field as Green at the time he caught the ball.

      Something tells me that if he had held, everybody would be complaining about how he commits needless penalties without realizing that he prevented a touchdown. Hindsight is always 20/20.

      •  TonyMW says:

        I’m with ya bro. At the time that Webster was close enough to actually commit a holding penalty, we had no telling what was coming. At the point it was clear that it WAS a TD, no one was in the vicinity.

  8.  TonyMW says:

    I guess the Giants also worked out Joseph Addai. Yeah yeah, I know Reese always does these workouts, but I wonder if their really is something going on w/ the RB situation.

  9.  fanfor55years says:

    The reason Webster should have sprinted after Green has nothing to do with anything but this: people HAVE been known to stumble on their way to the end zone; people have even been known to drop the ball without being hit; and teams HAVE been known to lose heart when one of the supposed team leaders points fingers out on the field while not hustling after the receiver who is behind them on the very first possession of a game.

  10.  TonyMW says:

    I wonder how this guy thinks this is even REMOTELY possible……

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