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New York Giants’ Tom Coughlin: “That is as Disappointing a Loss as We’ve Had in a Long Time”

November 5th, 2012 at 9:00 AM
By Dan Benton

The New York Giants wanted so badly to defeat the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday as a way to provide an emotional lift to those who suffered tremendous loss in the wake of Hurricane Sandy. Things did not go as planned, however. Instead, Big Blue was on the wrong end of a crushing 24-20 loss … a loss that head coach Tom Coughlin called "as disappointing of a loss as we've had in a long time."

“We wanted, emotionally, so badly to win the game for obvious reasons, for all of our neighbors who are struggling and who need some type of inspiration,” Coughlin said. “Of course, we didn't provide it for them.”

There will be plenty of blame to go around this week, but it ultimately boils down to a total team failure. Whether it be the offense, defense, special teams or coaching, it was a collective effort in futility; especially in the fourth quarter. And the late-game king was far from royal himself, as quarterback Eli Manning continued his recent struggles, and failed to even get his team a first down in the final frame.

“We've got to get [Eli] back on track. He is our guy and we have to get him back playing the way he was a couple of weeks ago. And we have to do it in a hurry. It's just not Eli now," Coughlin said. "We're struggling to get ourselves in position so it's an automatic for the quarterback."

With the Washington Redskins and Dallas Cowboys both losing, the Giants are one more loss (Philadelphia Eagles) away from escaping week nine with little damage. They'll need to regroup and play well against the Cincinnati Bengals, and hope they can go into their bye week at 7-3 and with a little extra time to get things together before they hit the most difficult stretch of their second half schedule.

Photo Credit: Mike Gannon


Tags: Eli Manning, Football, New York, New York Giants, NFL, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh Steelers, Tom Coughlin

25 Responses to “New York Giants’ Tom Coughlin: “That is as Disappointing a Loss as We’ve Had in a Long Time””

  1.  demo3356 says:

    Really good teams are very strong in the self scouting department. Hopefully the Giants take the bye week to realize how predictable they have become and tweak some things. Need to expand the passing game to include more players and more short passes

    •  kujo says:

      I feel like we haven’t seen a single screen in weeks. Could be the teams we’ve faced–Redskins, Cowboys and Steelers both have excellent 3-4 linebackers who might be strong against that sort of thing. But I can’t believe that NO screens to ANYONE were called.

      •  demo3356 says:

        Usually screens are really effective vs aggressive defenses like we’ve played the last few weeks. It just seems like every play is run up the middle for 2-3 yards or 7 step drop and bombs away.

  2.  demo3356 says:

    I admit I have always been a huge Dave Diehl Fan. The guy has been the ultimate team player since the day he got here. He was well on his way to becoming an all pro guard when JR cut Pettigout and he was asked to move over and play LT. He did it without hesitation and did it very well for a couple of years. When his replacement at LT was drafted he signed a contract extension agreeing to a pay cut when he eventually would go back to Guard, again a team first guy. He went back to Guard, took his pay cut and was there to step in yet again when Beatty went down for the year. He wasn’t anywhere near a stud LT but was good enough for us to win a second Lombardi in 5 years with him at LT. This year when KM got the boot he stepped in at his 4th position in 7 years and didn’t complain at all when for the first time in his career he didnt start the last 2 games after returning from injury. Unfortunately he is no longer a starting caliber Tackle in this league, but it isn’t as easy as some think to just bench a guy that has been a core contributor to 2 Championship teams. These guys are a tight knit group and there is chemistry built together over the years. Part of what makes Coughlin such a great coach and why his players love playing for him is his loyalty to the guys who have fought for him over the years. I think its pretty obvious (as I posted earlier this week) that Diehl will go the way of Ohara, Suebert and McKenzie after this season, but until he proves beyond the shadow of a doubt to Coughlin, Gillbride and Flaherty that he is done, he will be given every chance to keep his job. I Wouldn’t be at all surprised to See Locklear take back over after the bye with Diehl as the primary backup at all OL positions besides center for the remainder of the year.

    •  Lascarius says:

      I hope so. I think both of the sacks from this game were from his side. Don’t quote me on that. At least one of those were critical and could have changed the game if Eli had not been sacked. Definitely not saying the team didn’t have other faults but you never know what one play can do.

  3.  Chad Eldred says:

    kujo: “Bradshaw is back to his run-to-the-hole-stop-and-think-about-where-to-go-next-and-oh-sh*t-I-just-got-tackled routine.”

    I don’t think that there is a better description of Bradshaw’s running style. I laughed til my stomach hurt when I read that, then I wept because it is so freakin’ true.

  4.  JimStoll says:

    I haven’t seen any mention of it here, but on the radio they are reporting that after Dallas lost to Atlanta last night, Garrett and his players locked Jerry Jones out of the lockerroom.
    Think of that!

    So despite of our awful play, really all that appears to be left by way of divisional competition is Philly; and after tonight, who knows

    •  demo3356 says:

      I read that and was laughing out loud. Reporter said it was the maddest he’s been all year. Heads are fixing to roll in big D. I think Ginger Garrett should be dusting off his resume and checking out Career…

    •  Chad Eldred says:

      Like it or not, the guy signs the checks. I don’t know how wise it is to lock him out. Unless Garrett is already cleaning out his office and just wanted some privacy to say good-bye to his players.

  5.  fanfor55years says:

    re-posting. If you don’t want to read it just skip to the last statement. because in a week-to-week league that’s what matters. Still plenty of time to work out the kinks thanks to the division situation, especially if the Eagles lose tonight.

    fanfor55years says:
    November 5, 2012 at 9:12 AM

    Week-to-week league.

    Giants stunk yesterday. Steelers played well. Would have been a worse beating if the officiating wasn’t awful and fell in our favor for a change.

    Still a good lead in the division.

    Winnable game this coming Sunday.

    The bye cannot come soon enough because maybe they will recognize that their offense has become big play or bust and one of their two big play options is at 75% of his best (at even 90% Nicks catches that first bomb for an easy TD) and they have not got ANY short and intermediate passing game at this point

    How many of you told me how wrong I was when I said we’d miss Manningham? You were wrong.

    Defensive technique is abysmal. Hardly anyone is making tackles at first contact. The defensive middle has been a bad dream all season. (And while one game does not a career make, please Chase, come back soon! And I’m 100% with rlhjr, DRAFT a damn impact linebacker for the middle).

    Every defense we’ve played over the past month appears to know what we’re doing on offense on nearly every play. Receivers were simply not open yesterday, which was also the case in the previous two games.

    Yes, David Diehl is done. If they don’t replace him with Locklear this week there should be an investigation. He had a terrific career with the Giants that went downhill last season and has now reached the point where he just cannot get it done any longer. No time for sentiment now. We need to win this game on Sunday.

    Hosley needs to speed up his learning curve. He’ll be very good, but he makes too many mental mistakes.

    Corey Webster, Osi, Tuck, Brown and Boley all had terrific games. Rolle did too except for the one bad angle he took when Wallace caught that ball and raced past everyone. Amukamara did a very good job. JPP played reasonably well. The tackles, Herzlich, Kiwi and Fewell were abysmal. And this defense had better focus on tackling. The word on this defense must be “Stick with your block, and the ballcarrier should just keep moving his feet, because you’ll gain yards after contact all day on these guys.” Pathetic.

    The offense is worrisome. They have become very predictable and one-dimensional. That has to change or they are going to be in trouble against elite teams.

    The Steelers are capable of beating anyone, especially when Roethlisberger gets short fields thanks to his return team. Yeah, our coverage was indifferent but the Steelers have been doing that to a lot of teams. Against a return team like that Coughlin should have had more starters in coverage. (By the way, I watched Barden closely yesterday and he did NADA in coverage….waste of a roster spot IMO).

    It’s one game. There have been some bad trends popping up (one of which is TC’s clock management, which has been almost uniformly awful this season and cost us 3 points at the half yesterday) of late, but if we can just beat the Bengals and get to the bye at 7-3 I think we’ll be okay.

    •  Levito says:

      That first “huge bomb” was a big miss by Eli. If Eli didn’t throw it behind Nicks, it’s not a contested catch and Nicks catches it in stride for a long gain, and possibly a TD. Eli didn’t have a lot of time yesterday, but even so, he only had one nice throw all day and it was the long ball to Bennett.

      •  fanfor55years says:

        I mean the one down the Giants’ sideline that Eli threw perfectly and Hakeem just couldn’t reach because he doesn’t have the old burst.

  6.  Chad Eldred says:

    I have been on a self-imposed quarantine from any information pertaining to this game since the game ended yesterday. Considering that, I have basically the same take as most everyone here. In, fact, I don’t recall there being so much agreement on anything around here. The consensus means that we are in all likelihood seeing things pretty close to how they actually are.

    This offense is so predictable, I don’t know why anyone would bother to scout or prepare. You could find a game plan from three years ago and the tendencies would be exactly the same. If anything, the tendencies are worse. The more the offense struggles, the more is becomes a caricature of itself. The routes are insanely predictable. Can someone tell me why, when only two or three yards are needed for a first down everyone is running 15 yard patterns? What a total joke. Would it make sense to have someone like, maybe the TE, stay underneath? Maybe they should ask Jason Witten about that. How about KG? Could you have coffee with him maybe? Sadly, as we all know, nothing is going to change. We have to hope that the players can suck it up and execute the same tired game plan in a way that works despite the lack of creativity.

  7.  demo3356 says:

    I don’t think anyone was happy to see Mario go or didn’t think we would miss him to some extent. He was a very good if not the best #3 WR i the league. They just couldn’t break the bank for him with Cruz and Nicks coming up on FA. I personally think Randle will be every bit as good as Mario who didn’t contribute a thing until his second season with the team.

    •  JimStoll says:

      my comfort after yesterday’s loss is really the belief that our team seems to play every season in equal measures of good and bad (hence my proverbial .500 perjorative), and there will be good games yet to come, as well as bad.
      And we have all seen that that play can extend straight into the opening round of the playoffs in either direction.
      So here we are 9 games in sporting a pretty fine 6-3 record and (especially if Philly loses tonight) a comfortable divisional lead.
      We’ve played increasingly poorly over the past 3 weeks after turning in what we all thought was a signature win against the Niners.
      I can’t begin to predict which of the remaining teams we will beat and to whom we shall lose. given our various opponents’ personal circumstances we “ought” to beat Washington, Philly and New Orleans without much of a thought, and then lose to Atlanta, GB and Baltimore with about as much thought. And Cincy ought to be the swing game that either gives us the division or makes that a question mark.
      But of course its the Giants, so we are likely to deny Atlanta its undefeated season and give the Pack a good old fashion whooping, while allowing New Orleans to smoke us in our house.
      Who knows.
      The one thing is for sure, we’ll be biting our nails right through Week 17.

    •  fanfor55years says:

      I agree about Randle, but he needs until 2014 to get there and meanwhile we will have had a chance at two rings with Mario. And the Niners did NOT break the bank. We could have retained him if he had been given the appropriate sweet talk. The money could have been found but he wanted a bigger role and the Niners gave him a baloney presentation about how much more he’d be used than in New York just before they went and signed Moss.

      If we had Manningham right now we could accept that Nicks is unlikely to be 100% until late in the season, if then, and could have rested him this coming week so he’d have two weeks off and really have a chance to heal. Any way you look at it, not having him is a very bad thing right now.

  8.  UPSTATE GMAN says:

    I think is was Randle who “stopped” on the way to the pylon in the corner of the endzone. Also, he’s not looking for the back shoulder pass. That is unfortunate, since it is Eli’s “favorite” play on 3rd and “short”. Why is it that at every level, players seem to have to “re-learn” the game… This is pretty basic stuff they are screwing up as they are professionals, and practice this stuff all the time; even if they are inexperienced at this level. Why hasn’t Barden been inserted in the red zone, do we have anything to lose? As in practice, as in the game… are they working on this stuff?

    •  Levito says:

      I don’t understand why they would rely on him in those situations anyway. First read for a fade in the end zone is Randle? What? He’s the 4th best receiver on the team on a good day. No way he should be the first read on that play. Same with the third down back shoulder fade. That’s a read you can’t expect a rookie to make in that spot. Cruz, Bennett, Nicks, Hixon I’d expect to make it, but not Randle.

    •  fanfor55years says:

      Randle was awful. Rookie mistakes. But to be expected. Except for that fade to the end zone. He has to catch that ball. That was no rookie mistake, just a really bad effort on his part.

      Barden doesn’t have enough acceleration off the line or out of his breaks to be particularly useful in a tight field

  9.  fanfor55years says:

    Three significant mistakes by TC yesterday no matter how you slice it:

    1) Reinserting David Diehl into the lineup and sitting Locklear;

    2) Clock management at end of first half combined with countenancing some horrid offensive calls that, in essence, may have cost the Giants the game since we didn’t score three and the Steelers did; and

    3) Not insisting that starting players be inserted into the cover teams in the second half after they had proved they could not prevent the Steelers from gaining excellent field position on every kickoff and a few punts.

    When your coach and your franchise quarterback have very bad days you almost always lose. Only a great play by Osi, and two very favorable and probably incorrect calls by the zebras allowed us to avoid being humiliated by the Steelers. They were FAR the better team on the field yesterday.

    But that was yesterday. Things could look very different after this coming Sunday.

  10.  GIANTT says:

    I stepped off the curb (came off the low ledge if you will ) I dont think Ive read a sane person on here who hasnt agreed on what happened . My question or comment is.Did Pittsburgh on defense go all out and make sure that the passing game was covered well and let the Giants run game potentially have its way ( of course it didnt but that may have more to do with the Giants ineffectual running than a great run defense ) . Watching TV doesnt show whats happening too well . I know Eli was having difficulties . More than Ben who was wearing those gloves (coincidence?)
    Also , I was amused by the number of people almost praying to have Chase Blackburn back after Herzlichs performance .I like Blackburn but whos to say he would have done any better ? I suppose the main reason for the sanguinity around here is that despite our complaints about the mediocrity of the Giants , the other teams in the NFC east are in worse shape and if Philly loses tonight then “no harm , no foul”
    In fact its a plus for the Giants who despite their performance yesterday , may end up this evening one game further into the season and they might have maintained their NFC East gap .I take refuge in small comforts when it comes to finding ANY good out of yesterdays game

    •  fanfor55years says:

      They dropped two safeties deep on nearly every passing play expecting the Giants to go deep, and they had a safety come up only occasionally because they were stopping the run pretty easily except for a few plays that were run between Baas and Snee where they made excellent blocks. Bradshaw’s reads were terrible.

      We really had very few times when they didn’t have our receivers well-covered. They left Nicks with single coverage because they knew he wasn’t “right” and certainly got away with it. They rotated to Cruz and did a good job of neutralizing him, and the #3 receiver either couldn’t get separation or misread the coverage and wasn’t on the same page as Eli (when it was Randle instead of Hixon). The only really open shots we had were one bomb to Nicks that Hakeem would easily take for a TD if he was close to 100%, that pass to Bennett where we caught them in the wrong coverage, and the play where they guessed Eli was throwing a swing pass to Brown and left the middle zone wide open for a nice 20-yard completion.

      The Steelers pretty much knew where we were going. Gilbride has now been seriously out-coached by first Rob Ryan and then Dick LeBeau. Understandable because they are both better than he, but still not good.

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