Loading ...The image we have of the New York Giants morale is something like Ramses Barden on the sideline last week after his huge breakthrough game helped Big Blue absolutely dismantle Cam Newton and the Carolina Panthers: ear-to-ear smile, teeth shining. The Philadelphia Eagles, ehhhhh not so much. Michael Vick & Co. got dismantled last week by the Arizona Cardinals, and come limping home to Philly for the big division matchup.
We watched the Eagles-Cardinals game (thanks FOX) and have two lasting images: Mike Vick lying on his back in pain and 'Zona defenders streaking down the field with the ball in their hands with blocking caravans. Vick was sacked five times and hit an astonishing thirteen times. The Eagles were down 24-0 at the half and didn't show much fight in the second half.
And the Eagles have bigger troubles than a smack down from the Cardinals and a bruised and battered Vick: Jeremy Maclin still isn't back on the field with a hip pointer; the makeshift offensive line that was a large part of Vick getting bit by the Cardinals defense is going to be out there again (my favorite headline was one from Yahoo! Sports that read "Philadelphia Offensive Line in Shambles"); and their big-name secondary still can't figure it out.
But this could go one of two ways for the Eagles: this can be the start of a downward spiral like they slipped into early last year, or this can be a kick in the backside that makes them angry, has them coming out fighting next week at Lincoln Financial Field.
And if it's the latter, the Giants might be in trouble if they're spend the week patting themselves on the back over a win that was too easy, against a Panthers team that really didn't show up at all last Thursday. Here's to hoping Giants take what still could be a dangerous Eagles team seriously.
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Not to be Debbie Downer, but it’s worth noting that the majority of the Cowboys game featured not only a poor offensive line, but also a center that had been on their roster for all of 5 days…yet our “best in class” defensive line made him look like a pro-bowler.
Romo had a lot to do with that, a ton of quick hitters off 3 and 5 step dops.. It was slant a poluza 2012
I don’t think you can ever call an Eagles game a trap game. Yes they got pummeled last week by what is beginning to look like a pretty fair Arizona club. Yes they looked pretty erratic in 2 victories over Cleveland and Baltimore the preceding weeks. And yes they are a bit banged up (watching Vick hold his head after that 2d Q sack last week made me think concussion). But this is the Eagles. They almost always beat us. They beat us in wacky crazy ways. They crush us from time to time. They seem to win when we crush them. They beat us with back up QBs. They seem to scare us. They seem to know how to take away our running game and how to pressure Eli.
Since 2000, the rivalry stands at 16-11 Eagles
Since 2008 it is 7-2 Eagles
Since 2008 they have outscored us 257 -188
There is simply no way this should be a trap game
How about this for a Week 3 power ranking (Hank Gola):
1. (2) Texans (3-0)
2. (3) Falcons (3-0)
3. (5) Cardinals (3-0)
4. (1) 49ers (2-1)
5. (6) Giants (2-1)
6. (11) Ravens (2-1)
7. (7) Patriots (1-2)
8: (4) Packers (1-2)
9. (15) Seahawks (2-1)
10. (14) Bears (2-1)
Hard to argue with that top 5
Oh look, an article about the huge game we have this week against our hated divisional rival, where the writer presents a legitimate point of concern based on the recent history of our team and theirs. Winning this game, which is going to be tough, on the road against a very talented offense and exceedingly physical defense, means we surge to the top of the NFC East and put the crapola performance against the Cowboys in Week One behind us.
But yeah let’s keep dissecting this catch from MNF like it’s the g-ddamn Zapruder film!
agreed, besides I don’t think the call was such a big deal even if you assume it was blatantly wrong. unless you tell me the ref had money on the game, then it was just a bad call that came at the most critical moment possible. Heck, that stuff happens. what is far worse in my mind is the interminable conferences over every call and the way the players and coaches are behaving. It seems most of the players have decided to test whether they have to obey any rules, and the coaches think they have the right to bully the officials one way or the other.
For those who think the NFL has too many rules, what the replacement officials are giving us is a glimpse of backyard football; and it ain’t pretty
While I’m at it, ESPN:
1 Texans 3-0
2 Falcons 3-0
3 Ravens 2-1
4 49ers 2-1
5 Cardinals 3-0
6 Giants 2-1
7 Packers 1-2
8 Patriots 1-2
9 Eagles 2-1
10 Seahawks 2-1
And CBS Sports:
1. Texans
2. Falcons
3. Cardinals
4. S.F.
5. Ravens
6. Dallas
7. Chicago
8. Giants
9. Bengals
10. Patriots
Repost…missed the non-existent UTT on the last thread.
For years FF55 and DEMO have been saying that Pat Flaherty is one of the best (if not the best) offensive line coach in the NFL (for which they sometimes have been juvenilely and unjustly mocked when the O Line doesn’t play well). Well, this week Pat got some recognition. Peter King provided great perspective and kudos on what the O Line accomplished last week, rightfully deserved…..
COACHES OF THE WEEK segment in MMQB
“Pat Flaherty, offensive line coach, New York Giants. Preparing on a short week, going on the road … those are problems enough for a team playing on a Thursday night, and playing a team that just beat up the New Orleans Saints. But add this: Flaherty had to prepare an offensive line that would be starting in tandem for the first time ever — and with a right tackle, Sean Lockler, starting his first game at right tackle for the Giants, and with Will Beatty starting for the first time this season at left tackle.”
“Flaherty’s the unsung hero on the Giants’ coaching staff, and he proved it again Thursday night. Eli Manning was sacked once in 51 minutes of play time, and rarely under duress. A first-time starting back, Andre Brown, rushed for 113 yards, and the Giants held the ball for 36 minutes. It shouldn’t be this easy, but Flaherty’s line made it look that way.”
And In his UNSUNG MAN IN THE TRENCHES segment, he showed some love to William Beatty too….
“Will Beatty, T, New York Giants. Except for two late pressures allowed, Beatty, in his first start of the season, provided a safety net for Eli Manning and paved the way for Andre Brown, in his first start in the NFL, to run for 113 yards. More lithe and agile than he seemed as a rookie out of UConn, Beatty’s going to be a vital part of the New York offense. He showed against Carolina he’s ready.”
You might as well have tagged me in this post, since no one has generated more “juvenile” attacks on Demo and FF55 for their deification of Coach Pat Flaherty than me. And while I stand by that ball-busting (which is what it was), I really don’t see why Flaherty is the recipient of so much praise–Beatty was injured and his return this week yielded the expected results; Locklear (who could end up being this year’s Victor Cruz if he continues to play as well as he has) improved our play on the right side, which certainly helped Snee up his game as well; and Baas has quietly improved, probably because the big guy is finally heathy and has had time to master the offense. I give Flaherty props for developing Boothe, who has definitely looked good this season.
But let’s also remember that there is a litany of players who were supposed to be “good enough” after enrolling in Patrick Flaherty’s School for the Underachievers and People Who Can’t Block Good, only to flunk out. He’s a good coach, there’s no doubt about that. But I think certain people on here get a little too enthusiastic about their love for the guy.
To be fair, you have to give him some credit for developing Beatty as well, who was a little bit of a project.
Also, while he has recently declined into liability, Flaherty deserves a ton of credit for getting a lot of very productive years at 4 different starting spots from nondescript 5th round pick David Diehl.
Lol, even when Costanza admits he’s wrong he still cant admit he’s wrong.. It isnt just FF55yrs and I who think Flaherty is amongst the best in the business it is other coaches and players around the league. The guy is a GREAT OLine coach. We have won to SB’s and been an offensive powerhouse despite the lack of first rd talent across our line.. Do you think that is magic or Pixy dust? It is Pat Flaherty taking a bunch of unheralded late rd picks and being successful with them. Guys like Suebert, Diehl Boothe, Whimper, Koets etc.. 2 years ago we started 10 different players on the Line and were a 4th quarter 28 pt collapse from going into the layoffs as a 2 -3 seed. I know its hard just to eat your Krow after menstruating about the line for 2 straight years and mocking those of us who support JR’s system for bringing in bargain OL players and letting the great one coach em up, but throw some Cool whip on it and chow down brohski!!!
Again, what exactly was I wrong about? I supported drafting Beatty and think he’s a fine left tackle; I supported the Baas signing (I wanted to draft someone high but liked Baas’ pedigree and style); I was a huge McKenzie and Seubert supporter, and obviously think the world of Snee; I was one of many who had very little knowledge of Locklear and am not the only one who has been pleasantly surprised by his quality of play thus far.
I was a huge fan of the Andrews brothers, and I felt that Petrus and Koets aren’t all that good, and that the injury to the latter gave us an out with him. I think it’s pretty clear that I have long believed that Diehl has been overrated on here and underrated by the commentariat, though I admit that he is a valuable backup at this point in his career. My opinion is that these 3 guys are like Coke–if you’re thirsty, it will do the trick, but what your body really needs is water. Finally, I have remained convinced that this group is the weakest group on an otherwise stacked roster. Our current starting five looked real good last week. Let’s see a similar performance against a superior defense before we annoint them.
What I’ve been wrong about is Boothe (better than I thought) and Diehl (worse RT than I thought). If I’m missing something, show me evidence.
I predict Jayron Hosely notches both a sack and an INT this weekend.
David Wilson makes the first play of his career.
only if it is a kick return; otherwise, don’t think he sees the field
I’ll quantify “play” as 20+ yards from scrimmage or a return to midfield.
+1
We have seen TC take a conservative approach to playing injured players thus far this season so I don’t think Hixon or Bradshaw are guaranteed to play. It looks good for both of them if they can practice but with our depth if there is any question I wouldn’t be surprised to see either or both sit out. Also, if they do play it could be more like the Beatty week one role, basically in a limited basis.
Diehl is reasonably healthy I think will be active even if with no intention to play. I think TC would rather an 80% as a backup tackle option than a 100% Brewer or moving Boothe out to tackle.
I hope he brings them back slowly..Like after the bye week slowly:-) I think Brown and Wilson are much better fit for this game than Braddie is. Phillies defense is lightning quick and there is no time for his two step shuffle behind the line. The best way to attack them and their wide 9 crap is shooting right up the middle between quickly. I think Bradshaw is nowhere near a feature back anymore and is more fit to be a 3rd down back or COP back to give Brown a breather.
I’m hoping they keep Barden on the field a lot. Phily will have their hands full with Nicks, Cruz and Bennett so he wlll have a field day