Loading ...The report that tight end Jeremy Shockey wanted to return to the New York Giants has stirred up quite a storm. Mere hours after it hit the tabloids, former Big Blue wide receiver and teammate of Shockey, Amani Toomer, took to Twitter in an effort to speak out against the mere idea of his return to the Big Apple.
"No Shockey! 'I will never play for you again!' he yelled at Jerry Reese in 08. Let him keep his word. Bad teammate, worse person."
These comments didn't sit well with Shockey, who immediately retaliated.
"Bad teammate. Haha. Well, he was the lazy one that broke my leg!" Shockey tweeted. "Remember when his ex divorced him and he urinated on a her cloths? I guess he's the good person."
Shockey continued: "Go get a bucket of rocks and start throwing them at your glass house."
Uncharacteristic of Toomer to speak out so bluntly, this exchange is right up Shockey's alley. Moreover, it shows that he has not, after all, matured and remains as bitter towards the Giants and his former teammates as ever. Oh, and let's not leave the media out of the equation:
"It's funny how the NY media still tries to make money off me! Can anyone find a quote from me on me wanting to play for the GIANTS?"
So, what does it all mean? It means that Shockey has absolutely no chance of returning to the Giants now or ever again.
"My tweet is not going anywhere. I stand by what I say," Toomer concluded. "Shockey, thanks for proving my statement about you being a bad person. Enough said. Have a nice day, buddy."
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Like the old proverb says, “Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”
I really don’t remember Toomer urinating on his ex’s clothes, but that seems to be a rather mild reaction to divorce, all things considered.
I don’t judge sh!t that happens in a divorce. The best people in the world have done some crazy stuff in those situations.
F Shockey. Toomer was a much better GIANT than Shockey could have ever dreamed of being. Wasn’t Toomer the one that spent his last season teaching other receivers how to keep their feet in bounds on those sidelines passes? His skills are STILL paying off for us.
As for the divorce…. I remember when I got divorced. When me and my sons moved out…. I took my shirt that I had with both our name on it in hearts (you know the cheesey love kind), laid it out on the bed, then broke eggs all over it. We can do some weird stuff in those situations.
LMAO you nailed it Krow……….LOL
I see that Giants TE Coach Mike Pope turns 70 today.
But he probably feels as if he’s 10 again and that his parents just brought him a brand new model railroad as a birthday gift.
After years of making do with beat up old crap off the shelves at Goodwill, Pope now has an honest to god TE with honest to god TE skills to play with.
While many fans, beat writers, pundits (and Bennett) look at Bennett, they see a guy who has the potential to catch 60 or more passes a year. But Pope looks at him and likely sees a guy who can set the edge on running plays and be an effective blocker out in space.
Don’t kid yourselves: Therein lies Bennett real value to the Giants. He’s as large as Ballard but can run the 40 nearly one quarter of a second faster than Big Jake. He’s fast enough to lead the way and blow defenders up on wide receiver screens in a way that the lead-footed Ballard and Pascoe just were never able to do.
With this one, fairly cheap and relatively unheralded acquisition, the Giants so-called [insert pejorative of choice here] offensive line just got a whole lot better.
The lingering question, of course, is how Bennett will react when he crunches his receiving numbers midway through the season and realizes that he’s not going to finish anywhere near the 60+ catch total that he envisions for himself.
Will he sulk? Will he grouse? Will he look to bolt in 2013 for some longed for greener pasture in which he can satisfy his inner Jermichael Finley?
I don’t know and I don’t think the Giants know either. But that’s why Reese gave him only a one-year deal. $2.5 million is a cheap price tag nowadays for the new breed of prolific pass catching “hybrid” TEs. But it’s a very generous salary for a TE whose primary responsibility will be as a blocker. If Bennett thinks he can earn more by going somewhere else and catching more balls, Reese and the Giants will wish him all the best and send him on his way. They will then find someone cheaper (but probably not as talented) to take over the role as a block-first, two-way TE. But if Bennett is happy in the admittedly unglamorous role he will ultimately find himself playing here, he will no doubt be rewarded with a more lucrative deal; one that falls short of what the Gateses, Gronks, and Grahams will make… but one that’s at the very top of the food chain for a blocking TE.
While Bennett’s blocking is for sure his most valuable asset, I think people are going to be surprised by his production. Maybe not 60 catches, but it wouldn’t surprise me.
This Gilbride doesn’t use the TE thing is way overblown. Gilbride hasn’t HAD a TE since Shockey…who by the way was leading the team in receptions when Toomer’s laziness broke his leg. :-P
Yeah, but Shockey was not playing alongside receivers anywhere near as talented as Nicks and Cruz.
Bottom line: There just won’t be enough balls to go around. Figuring normal production by the Giants wideouts in 2013, Bennett will be extremely lucky to reach 45 receptions for the season.
Perhaps, but if the Giants wind up not as happy with their #3 WR as they’d like to be and half those looks go to Bennett instead (in addition to his regular TE looks which should be more than usual given his better talent than we’ve had), that could easily turn into 50-60.
Nicks & Cruz they were not, but Plax & Toomer wasn’t exactly a 1990′s Giants WR corp.
Look, Jake Ballard had 38 catches last year. You really can’t see Bennet getting 1 more per game?
+1
I love the signing of Bennett. He has just made our running backs better. We may even look at DJ differently after Bennett gives him a key block now and then out in front.
My wish now is to add a pass catching RB to this offense.
@jfunk
I don’t remember Gilbride ever really being a big fan of TEs in general, or using them, in fact for several years, he ran an offense that didn’t even use the TE, period, even to block (houston Oilers) and back then he even disparaged the need to have a TE in the offense at all and used to view the TE position as being a relic and preferring real WRs, then as HC in San Diego, he did have a TE, but never utilized them, and in Buffalo, he didn’t utilize the TE much either, I’d go on to say that out of all the OCs in the league, he probably has the longest record of not really using the TE, it should be noted, that Shockey, wasn’t exactly a Gilbride fan either (though Shockey, has issues with everyone), but the year the G-Men won that Super Bowl, and before he got hurt, Shocks was griping about his role in the offense. So, I’m not really sure how much Bennetts going to produce on the receiving side.
@AmaniAToomer Shockey thanks 4 proving my statment about u being a bad person. enough said. Have a nice day buddy.
Giants Fact of the Day
In 2001, Michael Strahan broke the NFL record by recording 22.5 sacks.
Wow, hard to believe it’s been a decade. That’s a long time to for the record to stand, especially in today’s era of uber pass rush specialists. Strahan did it while being dominant against the run as well, teams rarely even attempted to run at him.
It’s crazy really. Every year, someone comes out charging early in the season and looks to break it, but always simmer down. Elvis Dumervil and Ware got close. Williams another year. But in the end, the cheese stands alone.
Tuckthis, in regards to your comment about how the NY Giants can’t seem to sign big name FA’s like everyone else year in year out.
Well they did dish out a couple of big contracts in recent years (canty and Rolle come to mind).
Also, have you heard of that when filing for the tax return, it is best to either pay/or receive the least amount of money. That means you did your numbers correctly and got paid exactly the amount you were supposed to get paid.
The NY Giants are managing their cap efficiently. So they are always close to their cap number. And like another poster said, two superbowl wins in four years mean they’re doing it right.
Yep.
Three additions.
First, some of these teams like the Bucs have tons of cap room because they haven’t spent ANY money in recent years.
Second, teams like Washington that always seem to spend money are always clearing cap room by cutting those guys they just signed to big deals a couple years ago.
Third, many of these teams wind up with all their money spent in a couple places. If your peruse their roster, you’ll see a lot more of it than ours filled with minimum salary guys. Our money is more spread out around our roster.
Also, we are developing and keeping our draft picks/UDFA signings more. Of our 22 starters on offense and defense (looking forward), 17 should be guys developed in house. The only 5 that won’t be:
Baas, Bennett, Rolle, Canty and Boley.
Not many NFL rosters can say the same.
Boley was a great signing to and he wasn’t exactly an unknown. I think we realized Boley’s value this past season when we didn’t have him for a stretch.
*too (gets up from desk, removes head from rectum)
Burress, McKenzie, Boley, Canty, and Rolle were all pretty decent “splashes”.
You can add LaVar Arrington to that list. Didn’t exactly work out, but it was considered a big signing at the time.
We offer free agents what we think they are worth. The reason we don’t get the big names is becasue they are often worth less than they go for. Conversely, we sometimes seem to overpay for players (Baas, Canty, Rolle and Boley) according to the media, because the Giants are smarter than the rest of the league in determining their true value. Reese is almost always proved right.
Canty is a great example. Talk radio in Dallas was laughing at NYG for paying him so much. However, they can’t find a DE they like since he left. They also can’t run on us for sh!t. I don’t hear that we overpaid anymore.
Thanks guys. As I said…no complaints and not advocating big splashes. I root for the mets….I know big splashes mean nothing but the back page for a day!
It just seemed to me the Giants were always maneuvering to get under the cap while other teams seem to spend more lavishly. You all made valid points….thanks!
For years, Canty was able to consistently knock down Eli’s passes. For that reason alone, it was a great signing lol. He now knocks down balls for us! And has been fantastic this past season. We may have overpaid in past seasons, but he definitely earned his paycheck this year. And I am pretty sure he had some undisclosed injuries as well. And like many said, when it comes to FA’s, you HAVE to overpay. It’s just how it works. The Giants only grab big name FAs, when the need is absolutely there.
Also, as far as Toomer urinating on his wife’s clothes goes, it wasn’t just because they got divorced. It was because she had undergone several abortions without telling him.
Better than knocking her teeth out. And if you’ve ever been involved in a divorce, (be you male of female) you can no doubt empathasize.
A list of teams with superbowl appearances in the past decade:
Pat – 5
NYG – 3
Pit – 3
Ind – 2
Bal – 1
Tmp – 1
Oak – 1
Car – 1
Phl – 1
sea – 1
Chi – 1
Arz – 1
NoS – 1
Grb – 1
Man, that’s amazing. There is something special with those top three organizations. We don’t know if the NYGs will return to the superbowl any time soon, but we dam know they’ll be competitive.
Pats get an *
That is 23 appearances for 10 super bowls. But the point is well taken. Clearly the top 3 are the class organizations of the NFL, especially since each is positioned to continue competing for superbowls (where Indy is not).
Yeah, he’s going back to 2000, which is actually 12 Super Bowls, and STL is missing from the list, from their loss to NE.
23? how do you have an odd number… you are missing the rams
Oh right, I left out the rams haha. but yeah, you guys get the point. Only four teams have multiple appearances. But I left out the colts as elite organizations as it appears Peyton have been carrying them for years. In fact, it was for YEARS that the colts focused on offense and ignored the defense. It wasn’t until the colts finally drafted some speedy guys on D to overcome the hump.
Mario Williams about to become the richest defensive player in NFL history.
This can’t be a good sign for us. What will JPP demand?
He will demand your soul!
I hear JPP is signed thru 2014. Unless he pulls an Osi, we shouldn’t need to worry about him for at little bit. By then, the TV deal is suppose to hit anyways, so the cap sky rockets.
What a great pick from for Houston huh? All those idiots claimed Bush is the clear #1 overall draft pick, and was shocked when they drafted Williams.
It’s too bad they couldn’t reap the profits from him.
That the Giants went the rather unusual route of giving their reported “#1 free agent target” a one-year deal is, in my eyes, a huge tell on how they plan to use him.
Had they even entertained the thought that Bennett would be used as the #3 receiving option behind Nicks and Cruz, I believe Reese would have offered him a multi-year deal in line with the market value for the NFL’s second tier receiving TEs (see: Carlson, John)
If the Giants truly believed (as Bennett reportedly does) that he was going to put up numbers equivalent to a Gates or Graham in THIS OFFENSE, they would have used this opportunity to lock him up long term while his value as a pass catcher was still well below market value for players of that ilk.
That they chose not to strongly suggests that they plan on using him exactly as they have used the TEs who preceded him: primarily as a blocker who will occasionally leak out into a hole in the defense and make himself available to catch a pass. It simply does not matter how much more natural talent Bennett may have over Boss or Ballard… that role just does not translate to 60+ catches a year.
Put another way: If you’re looking to buy a commuter car, why go out and pay for a Lamborghini? Maybe Bennett can be a Lamborghini in New Orleans or Green Bay, but the Giants chose to pay him as if he were a Camry.
My bet is that Marty B finishes the season with receiving numbers in the neighborhood of what we saw out of Boss and Ballard. My hunch is that Reese and the coaches don’t really know how Bennett will respond, emotionally, to that. Hence the one year deal. If he’s cool with his role, I’m sure the Giants will reward him with a richer deal that’s still well below what the Gronks of the world will command. But if Bennett becomes disgruntled, the team will let him walk and move forward with a (presumably) fully rehabbed Ballard or one of the many other available TEs who can perform the rather grunt-like function of a TE in the Giants offense.
or they could just be using him as a stop gap until the other TE’s heal or a rookie develops