Loading ...The New York Giants have done a great job walking that fine line between confident and cocky for the last several weeks, but defensive lineman Chris Canty may have taken a step over it on Wednesday when he all but guaranteed a Super Bowl XLVI victory.
“Get ready for a great game on Super Bowl Sunday,” Canty said. “And get ready for a parade on Tuesday.”
Canty isn't alone in his confidence; teammate Antrel Rolle said on Monday the Giants "expect to win" and that they "would not be denied." Meanwhile, on the other side of the coin, New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady told his fans on Sunday that they're going to Indianapolis to do one thing and that he hopes to see more fans at their celebration party "next week."
Bulletin board material for both teams? Unlikely.
This is the Super Bowl and if either team needs trash talk to motivate them for this game, they're already in a bad spot. None of this chatter means a damn thing when the Lombardi Trophy is on the line.
One of these teams will be having a party/parade, but it's not going to be decided by whoever has the sharper tongue; it's going to be decided on the field this Sunday.
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(Rotoworld) Updating a previous item, free agent LG Carl Nicks says he’s “disheartened” by the fact that the Saints have not yet tried to re-sign him.
* Anyone have a link to Brady ducking the phantom in the last game?
I saw that last night rewatching the game…to his credit he does regain his composure and completes a nice pass
wow, anyone read this Mark Herzlich article?
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7526225/super-bowl-2012-new-york-giants-mark-herzlich-encourages-others-stricken-cancer
Saw it yesterday. A great read and worth a second look by everyone. The kid has been to hell and back and is now in the freaking Super Bowl. I hope the Giants can find a way to activate him even if he just plays on Specials on Sunday.
Repost from the previous Plax thread….
Like most on here, I have mixed emotions with regard to Plax.
In my mind, his self-centered, ego centric, “big man on campus” mentality cost the Giants a potential trip and win in the 2008 Super Bowl. The Giants were cruising along at 10-1 leaving most teams in their wake. Then he shot himself and the offense scheme had to be adjusted to fill a huge void. They finished 12-4 and were the #1 seed. They really should have been 13-3 because they were dominating the Vikings in the last game through the first half, then pulled all their starters and the Vikings came back to barely win the game. Anyway, without a deep threat the Giants became a different team, were vulnerable and ultimately got knocked off in the division game by the Eagles. Btw, I put that loss squarely on the shoulders of Spags.
Regardless, if Plax doesn’t shoot himself, I like the Giants to repeat as Super Bowl champions. Now if that had come to pass, here are the Giants once again in the Super Bowl. That would make it 3 times out of the last 5 years. I don’t think the commentariat would be talking as they are today about the New England dynasty and Brady/Belichick if Plax doesn’t shoot himself. Instead we would hear a lot of “that was then (NE), this is now (Giants)” analysis. All of the elite, dynasty talk would be centered around Eli, Coughlin and the Giants.
Personally I hold Plax responsible for this turn of events. To me it is amazing how one buffoon act could change/affect the lives, perceptions and accomplishments of so many players and the entire Giants organization. As a fan and former athlete i can’t forgive him, but as a fellow flawed human being, I do.
I agree on some level, but it’s so hard to say where this team would be today if that had come to pass. Would this team be playing in the Superbowl on Sunday?
Plax remaining on the team at the time (regardless of whether or not we won the Superbowl) would have changed everything going forward from there too. Do we draft Nicks? Do we bring in so many young receivers (and Cruz in the process) as Reese does his best to rapidly build up an elite receiving corp?
Not saying we would not have been bringing in young receivers as Plax aged, but the number may have been lower as the urgency would not be as high, and if Nicks and Cruz were among those left out we may not be the team we are today. Does a team with Plaxico, Manningham, and Devin Thomas as its top 3 reach Superbowl 46?
jfunk – good points, obviously my post was a “what if” proposition. Who knows what our receiving corp would look like today if Plax didn’t shoot himself. But a few things I know for sure: (1) that Eli has progressed to the point where he can carry his team to a Super Bowl and (2) when healthy, the Giants have a great defense and (3) when you have a top flight coaching staff, equipped with good player talent, you are always in the hunt. Even with Plax, Manningham and Thomas as WRs, I see Eli bringing this team into the playoffs. He is really that good.
I love a parade!
Im sure , like me , even the most rabid of fans out there are totally NUMBED by the media coverage . I must admit that when the Giants arent playing in the big game I certainly dont bother watching the coverage so I dont get as desensitized as I have this year .
Just looking at the coverage ‘ Just talking about the most talked about high ankle sprain on the planet ” Oy . However , I will admit that one of the commentaries was a description of exactly what a high ankle sprain is . I never knew it was so much more than an “ankle sprain ” which even I , at my advanced age , usually get over in a day or two .
Having said that , Ive been wearing my Giants gear this week and Ive been getting looks and honks from the guys as well as the ladies which is normal for me ( What can I tell you , I started drinking early today )
I look like a refugee from up North – I havent shaved since the playoffs started and I wont until Monday at least . So , I suppose I look a little scary to some , more so than normal
I must say, I am not fond of all this outward expression of winning
I was listening to amani toomer the other day discussing the difference between the losing team in ’01 and the winning one in ’8
he said that in ’01 they were absolutely convinced they were the better team and would win, despite the strength of the Ravens defense; and in ’08 they knew they had to play their very very best to beat the then 18-0 Pats
that attitude fed into the respective preparations
now the difference in the two teams may most notably be aat coaching where Fassel was a very very loose guy and Coughlin is of course incredibly serious
but still, if you talk too much you often start believing your own bull-bleep and that can make you overlook and underrate your opponent and just get plain sloppy
let’s not forget that it was only 5 games ago that we were 7-7 and the epitome of the erratic up and down team
it is true we are healthier, simply better, and truly battle tested now, but it is not so far back that we were not all that
and lets also not forget that in week 9 when we faced the Pats, our offense did precious little against that maligned defense that was certainly worse then than it is now
so my request of the players is shut your yaps, finish the practice week strongly, and come out Sunday night believing you have to play your very very best football to win
I agree Jim. I don’t like this yapping either. There is really no need for this. I have always like the humble attitude NY Giants used to have.
I think one person completely changed it. And that is Rolle. He’s good in many ways, but the man does talk a lot. And the entire defense has taken on his identity. Hopefully they can back up their talk.
I hear you Jim and I’m getting more and more nervous as the week has progressed and then I hear Eli speak and I feel a little better. I think between Eli and Coughlin these guys will be ok. Their heads will be in the game and they won’t forget that is still Brady on the other side and anything can happen.
I’m so sick of all this media hype. I wish Sunday would just hurry up and get here.
I agree as to eli and TC
they will always be grounded
I also believe that we are unique in that our 3 WRs appear to be truly non-diva-like guys who always work very very hard
where the concern arises, if it arises at all, is the defense taking the Pats O too lightly, especially if Gronk is a no-show, and the O-Line remaining as crappy as they have all year
Agreed so let’s hope that they are as tired of the media as we are and are only giving them lines to run with and are taking the Patriots more seriously they are coming across. Frankly the fact that they haven’t punched any of these reporters yet is amazing. These questions are relentless.
Some differences for sure. Unlike the 2000 team, this team has players with some experience in this game (including losing it) to remind them how precious this moment is and how hard a loss will be to carry with them.
Rolle is most certainly the source of a lot of the “energy” this team has, which is what he was brought here to provide. But let’s not forget that Rolle is also a hard worker. It was he that pushed his teammates to “just give me 15 minutes” on the practice field because you play how you practice, etc, immediately BEFORE Coughlin had his little chat with Tuck. I don’t think this is a guy that you have to worry about letting the “we’ve already won this game” attitude seep into the locker room.
He’s confident that this team will win, but you can expect that he’s also reminding the guys that they WILL win only because they WILL put in the work to be their best on Sunday.
Also, the 2000 team was a #1 seed coming off a blowout victory in the NFC Championship game (and again, one with little playoff experience on the roster). This team is one that struggled until the very end and has much more experience, including in defeat. This team, coming into the stretch, was in need of some confidence vs. the 2000 team which needed a reality check. The 2000 team wasn’t nearly as good as they let themselves believe (worst team ever…). This team IS as good as they think they are. That doesn’t guarantee a win, but overestimating their own ability isn’t going to be a factor in a loss.
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again:
All the hand-wringing over the Giants’ “yapping” is unwarranted.
This team has been yapping throughout these playoffs. Didn’t hurt ‘em against Green Bay. Didn’t hurt ‘em against San Francisco.
Why stop now? As long as it’s an honest expression of their confidence in themselves and each other, then bring it on. I doubt it’s going to cause this team to lose its “edge,” as some have suggested. If anything, I think the continued yapping is indicative of a different kind of “edge.” However, it’s not the one born out of being disrespected. That’s the kind of edge we are all used to and are comfortable with. Instead what we’re seeing is the edge that comes from the belief that they are a more talented, and equally well-prepared, team.
And to those who fear that all the yapping may somehow inspire Brady and the Patriots to ascend to some superhuman level, I’d refer them back to their AFC divisional game last year against the Jets. If you recall, in the week leading up to that game, Rex and several Jet players were yapping about the beatdown they were going to put on NE in Foxborough. The conventional thinking was that the Jets would be walking into a buzzsaw; that an enraged Brady would make those cocky upstarts pay dearly for their brashness. Well, we all remember what happened. The Jets D sacked Brady five times; Sanchez threw 3 TD passes, and the Jets rolled to a fairly easy win.
I think people are getting unduly nervous due to the long wait and the excess of hype. The human imagination is capable of constructing some pretty weird scenarios if it stares at the same set of data points long enough. The interpretation may change but the underlying data remains the same. And that data strongly suggests that these Giants match up extremely well against these Patriots. They enjoy match up advantages all across the board: NY D-line vs. NE O-line; NY’s underrated secondary vs. NE’s thin receiving corps; NY passing game vs. NE secondary. The only place where NE enjoys a pronounced advantage is Wilfork vs. the interior of the Giants O-line. That’s it.
But as I said, given enough time the mind can play all kinds of tricks. I’d venture to say that if there were a four week wait – and the opponent was Jacksonville – we’d no doubt concoct 97 different reasons why Blaine Gabbert would kill us.
Sorry, but I don’t buy into this PC compliant fan mentality of hoping that the Giants don’t say anything that could give the Patriots extra fuel and motivation in this game. I think as fans we are grabbing at straws here.
This isn’t a church retreat where the players hold hands and sing Kum Ba Yah in unison.
The Patriot players aren’t hanging on every word a Giants player ushers. As a practical matter they don’t have the time to focus on this, their preparation in fine tuning and executing the game plan consumes all of their time. At this point, the players and coaches are oblivious to this, its a distraction.
As for what various Giants have said, I see nothing showing disrespect to New England, rather the comments just show their confidence. Some on here will point out Mario’s comments on Edelman. But tell me, did he not state the obvious truth that everyone knows, that wide receiver and punt returner Edelman is playing out of position as a CB? If Belichick trots Edelman out on the field as a CB Eli should target the WR he is covering on every passing play. Expose a weakness and take advantage of it. If the Ravens had done this more often when Edelman was covering Bouldin they would have and should have won the game handily.
I like the Giants confidence. They are where they are because of it.
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